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Law School Applications / Re: FSU/UFL
« on: November 21, 2009, 01:12:13 AM »
How do you find the atmosphere at UF?

Well, what do you mean by "atmosphere?"  :)

3L job search / Re: Anyone interview for the DOJ Honors Program?
« on: November 13, 2009, 11:56:13 PM »
AFIK they did not contact references, but I think that only happens immediately pre-offer as a background check type of thing.

I'm not sure about that.  I know somebody who was interviewed, found out that they were checking references, and then didn't get an offer.  Just some more info for all of you!

General Board / Re: How does one cope with law school debt?
« on: November 13, 2009, 11:54:21 PM »
That being said, if I could take a prospective law student and give him my wizened advice today, I would sternly caution him about the evils of taking on mountainous debt to try and grab an ever-shrinking slice of the decent-salaried pie. There are much easier, and less stressful, ways.

Amen.  I tell aspiring law students this though, and most of them look at me quizzically. 

Law School Applications / Re: FSU/UFL
« on: November 13, 2009, 03:11:04 PM »
I take fight to the death as well, but I'm a regulator, so you know.

Anyway, either school is fine and will serve you well. If you think government law is more your kick, go to FSU since we place a ton of people into those positions (like 30 or 40% or something). If you're gunning for the big law life, go to UF since they put 2-3 times as many people into big law (that's still only 10-15% of the class). Generally, you're going to be looking mainly at medium sized Florida firms coming out of either.

As for lifestyle, FSU is pretty cool and collegial. There's very little gunnerism and everyone gets along well. The profs are pretty chill for the most part and actually seem like they want you to succeed. The greater University's administration sucks, but the law school's admin is decent. Our football program will likely blow hard for the next few years, but might be decent again by the time you graduate.

I can't really speak much for Florida since I only know a few people there and am not real good friends with any of them, but I gather that it's a little more competitive. Still, I can't see it being all that bad. Their football team will likely remain good for some time, but will not be able to win another national title after this year.

I agree with Ninja that if you know for sure that you want government work, and you want to live in Tallahassee, you should go to FSU. 

I will add, however, that I'd venture that most law students going into law school have a vague idea of what they want to do, and that it changes as they go through law school.  As such, you should be honest with yourself and make sure that's what you want to do, because otherwise I'd say it's better to go to UF.

At the same time, if you're looking for "biglaw," I'd be wary of going to any Florida school. Places like UF are getting hit hard due to the economy--"good" jobs are hard to find.  Make sure you really want to do law school before you go!

Where should I go next fall? / Re: IU-Indy vs. Penn State HELP!
« on: September 19, 2009, 01:19:14 PM »
Is the Penn State LS not located at Dickinson anymore?  Is it on the main PSU campus?  I visited 2 years ago and it appeared to be "undergoing renovation" on the Dickinson campus.  The Dickinson campus (and town) is pretty cool if you're looking at the whole eastern small town sort of thing.

I ended up attending IU-Indy.  I would say your biggest concern between the two schools is social.  Do you want a major college campus lifestyle (if it did move to the main PSU campus) or an urban professional lifestyle?  I think the "quality" of the two schools and how they place in their respective regions is pretty similar, so lifestyle would probably be your biggest factor.

PSU now has two locations: one still at Carlisle and the other at State College (i.e., PSU's main campus).  The Carlisle campus is a very small area, FWIW. 

General Board / Re: case briefs
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:48:49 PM »
Your not dyslexic, tying anything for me takes hours. I tried Dragon naturally speaking but that was only 75% accurate, I just need someone to take dictation for me

Yeah, that's a good point. 

General Board / Re: case briefs
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:48:13 PM »
I guess I'm in the small minority that still briefs cases.   :-\

2L, right?

Yeah, I'm your alter-ego/rival, remember?  ;)

Indeed, just making sure. I can think of one guy at FSU that's a 2L that still types up briefs, so I guess you're not alone.

No worries. 

Even if I was the only person, I guess it works rather well for me, so I shouldn't complain!

Law School Applications / Re: Work experience?
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:58:30 AM »
You start a multi-million dollar company or solve world hunger. Otherwise, count on a good LSAT :D

Yeah, your experience *might* help you, but without a LSAT score within a school's range, it probably won't help too much.  Don't play with fire and study hard for the LSAT!

General Board / Re: case briefs
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:56:38 AM »
I guess I'm in the small minority that still briefs cases.   :-\

I book briefed all through law school, was just a habbit I never got out of

I book briefed in semester two, but I actually started typing out briefs again.  It's working well for me (so far), because I find it makes it much easier to pick up what's going on throughout the semester and formally briefing doesn't take too much longer than book briefing if you know what you're doing. 

General Board / Re: case briefs
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:55:16 AM »
I guess I'm in the small minority that still briefs cases.   :-\

2L, right?

Yeah, I'm your alter-ego/rival, remember?  ;)

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