In at Oregon!!!
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I've been accepted at WU and went to their preview day a few weeks ago. WU is not a T14. It doesn't claim to be, but I also believe that its T3 status is wrong. Personally, when someone on this board talks about T3 or T4 I imagine a school that run primarily for profit, accepts almost anyone, and offers the student little in return for their investment. This is definately not the case with Willamette. It has the highest bar passage rate of all three Oregon schools and has just as good, if not better, employment numbers. The school is literally across the street from the state capital. Clerkships and internships are easy to land with so many government agencies nearby. There are several members of the Oregon Supreme Court(including the Chief Justice) who are willamette alums, as well as several important people in some of the higher levels of Oregon's government. Quite a large number of west coast firms also come for OCIs.
At the preview day, I was very impressed with the law schools dean (something like 4 law degrees, 2 of which from Harvard). Apparently, from what I've heard, the dean before him nearly ruined the school leading to its drop in prestige, so that may explain why it still looked down upon. Also, the school does drop a fairly significant portion of its students (something like 10-15%), so expect to work very hard. Also, I get the sense that although the T3 status may be unfair, it is still real, and so the WU name may not go very far outside of Oregon.
« on: February 13, 2007, 01:18:41 PM »
I thought I would chime in. I moved to Portland about 12 years ago and am trying to decide if I should stay. Portland is a beautiful city but be warned. Portland really is very small. There are not a ton of job oppurtunities and many of the high paying positions are being snatched up by graduates from T14 schools. Portland seems to have this strange mystique around it that attracts many people from the East coast. I know this because my family is originally from maryland. However, I have seen Portland change quite a bit in the last 5 years or so. Housing costs have gone way up, and PDX has become very trendy. I now usually describe Portland as a "mini San Fransisco" when people ask. Traffic has become very bad so don't think you would be escaping it. To be 100% honest, the weather sucks. I have never gotten used to it. Six months of gray skies can make anyone depressed. However the best thing I have always thought about Portland, and Oregon in general, is that there are Mountains only an hour away and beaches only an hour away. Southern Oregon has some absolutley gorgeuous parts to it that make it ideal for camping and fishing, so it is not very hard to escape from the city.
As for L&C,it is simply a great school. I feel that it is very underrated as the perception that I get from attorneys and law firms is that they consider it to be the best law school in Oregon. With that said, I don't think the differences between it and the other two schools are very great. You can find alumni from all three who will tell why their school is the best. WU is located right next to the capital making it very easy to land externships and clerkiships. Oregon has some great facilities and fairly distinguished alumni. As far as environmental law, i don't really believe that there is a huge market for it. I just don't see too many environemenatl law firms and I don't know if the L&C name will go very far outside of the NW. With that said If environmental law is what you really want to do, I'm sure you can find opportunities if you look hard enough.
My best advice would be to visit. Some people are very dissapointed with Portland because they expect to see this green, forward thinking city, and then figure out just how small and kind of boring it can be. BTW L&C is extremely liberal. I would say more liberal the UO. (the city of Eugene is way more liberal than PDX though). If you really don't think you could stand a left leaning place, then Oregon might not be for you. Anyways, hope this helped. Let me know if you hav anymore questions.
In at Lewis and Clark!!!
I will be there for sure. I'm originally from Portland and want to come back, so L&C is looking pretty good.