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OP, take out any landmarks (i.e., names, schools, city, state, etc.) and forward to those willing 2 help. A stranger, not someone you know, is exactly what you need (ADCOM's are strangers).

Also, OPINIONs are what?  Like Noses and everyone has one.  Somethings you might find helpful and others not applicable. There are some really GREAT and TRULY HELPFUL PEOPLE on this board and I honestly believe you will benefit from their critique.

My 50cent...

This seems very interesting....  PM me, I'd like 2 read it.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: hey kids......
« on: July 23, 2007, 03:02:22 PM »
Search in on the main page:

JD, I pretty much believed most would post that sentiment.  She may not have the best answers in certain areas, but she can definitely provide insight on what not to do.  Moreover, (as a person currently struggling to improve my LSAT score) I appreciate her drive, determination, and commitment.  I don't know how many more times I will take the LSAT, but I'm definitely not ready to throw in the towel just yet.


Also, check out her website:

Bar exam was the test of time
Orange woman tries for eight years to pass the bar exam.

ORANGE Paulina Bandy couldn't fail the state bar exam again.

Not after she failed 13 times before.

Not after she had spent tens of thousands to attend law school. Not after she put her husband Jon Gomez through the ringer for so many years. Not after the debt she piled up forced her family to move into a 365-square-foot home.

Not after she spent the last eight years of her life studying to pass one stinking test.

Her 14th try came on a day in February. She did breathing exercises and self-hypnosis.

When the three long days of exams were finished, she walked out of the room and broke down and cried.

It was the only time she ever did.

Her journey began in 1994 at Western State University College of Law.

She had been a marine biologist, teaching at Science Adventures in Huntington Beach and at the Ocean Institute in Dana Point.

She and Gomez, who married in 1992 after an 11-year courtship, lived in a three-bedroom home with a garage and yard in a Fullerton cul-de-sac. The couple traveled and shared a passion for sports. They loved to entertain guests at their home.

Life was good ... until the day Bandy decided to go into law.

Bandy, who grew up in Anaheim, always felt underestimated and thought law school could help her reach a sense of achievement.

She told her husband, "Don't worry, it won't affect your life at all."

She supported his decision to go back to college and pursue a teaching degree after a lucrative career in lumber sales.

The learning curve was steep for Bandy, who powered through night classes. But she made it through the first year, when most students are weeded out of law schools.

"Law school was so in-your-face smart," she said. "It was very prestigious."

She graduated in 1998 with a B average and a desire to teach business law. She didn't want a high-pressure job, but an exciting internship with the Orange County District Attorney's Office that summer stoked her interest.

With about $80,000 in unpaid school loans and a degree, Bandy prepared herself for the state bar exam. She felt confident.

Bandy did what every bar exam taker would do. She took bar review courses, consulted with experts, bought study aids and studied for hours a day. She had more work to do than the Ivy League graduates who were more prepared and apt to pass the exam.

"There was a secret out there to passing, and I wasn't in on it," she said.

Gomez kicked off a tradition of bringing flowers to his wife after she finished her exam in February 1999. But Bandy found out later that she failed. She was disheartened but vowed to do better the next year.

Her father died that same year, but Bandy had to immediately hunker down and get ready for another exam.

In 2000, Gomez graduated from Cal State Fullerton with a child/adolescent studies degree. He began teaching shortly after for a starting salary of $29,000. In the meantime, his wife studied 14 to 15 hours a day to prepare for a second stab at the state bar exam.

"I wanted my happy ending," she said. "I wanted the Disney movie. I just thought, 'I can pass the exam.' "

Her second try was unsuccessful. She had become a "repeater," and that's when the frustration, shame and desperation seeped in. Bandy began to isolate herself. She and her husband were struggling to eke out a living.

"I knew I could do it, but I didn't know what the formula was," she said.

Maybe she should've given up the dream.

By 2003, five years after she took her first exam, Bandy hadn't passed. On July 1 of that year, at age 39, Bandy gave birth to daughter Roxanne.

By then, Bandy had taken the test seven times and was spiraling into more debt. Her law school debt ballooned into $128,000, and Bandy had to defer the loan. The couple spent at least $1,000 on registration fees and hotel rooms each time she took the test.

Gomez refused to let his wife give up. She had come too close on many occasions passing some portions of the exam but failing one to stop trying. He drove her to the test sites in Pomona, San Diego, Ontario, Long Beach, Pasadena and stayed with her during the three-day trips.

"To me, it wasn't a big fight," he said. "It was easier to say, 'Go in there. You can do it.' "

The fight continued for years. She tried twice in 2004, the year the family left Fullerton to move into a 365-square-foot home in the back yard of Bandy's mother's house in Orange. They sold the majority of their possessions furniture, sporting equipment, wedding champagne glasses at garage sales and squeezed what they could into their one-bedroom home.

One couch, a television set, a bed. No closet space, a tiny kitchen and a study area. No vacations, eating out or new clothes. Bandy took odd jobs to help pay for expenses such as Roxanne's childcare and a $500 monthly rent.

She took the exam twice in 2005 and twice in 2006. She failed both years.

"She's been so dedicated, and it's been hard on me seeing her hit against the wall," said her mother, Caroline Bandy.

The exam in February of this year was Bandy's 14th. A few months before, her father-in-law yelled at her for being a "pretend lawyer" and ruining his son's life. She also got into a bad accident in January and totaled her car.

On May 25, the day the results of the exam were to be posted online, Bandy came home to a message on the answering machine.

"I screamed," Bandy said. "I'll never forget it. I was doubled over like being punched in the stomach. In a good way."

She had passed the exam, said the voice in the message. She sobbed uncontrollably. Her mother and husband were in the front yard, shocked.

"I passed, I passed!" Bandy yelled while running to the driveway.

Eight years of sacrifice had paid off. The family celebrated at a nearby Rubio's.

After all that ordeal, Bandy might not even become a lawyer.

Because of her own experiences, she has an urge to help other repeaters pass the exam. Passing her 14th test in February and being sworn into the bar association in December is proof to other repeaters that if Bandy can do it, so can they.

She's decided to devote her time to helping them full time. She launched a Web site, www.cabarexamrepeatersresourc, and got a business license to help others find a formula to find pass the bar exam.

She'll also be teaching night classes to adults at the Placentia-Yorba Linda Unified School District. She hopes to tell her story to others and help them through their own struggles.

"To me, it's been such a big goal," Bandy said. "This is the journey. It's the end."

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: Porn Star Goes to Law School
« on: May 23, 2007, 09:06:54 AM »
lol..  you're funny!!!!

I've never seen her work, but can only imagine those who have not being able to focus.  I mean everytime I see that Jeremy fellow, I always think about his 'credentials'. lol

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: Porn Star Goes to Law School
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:56:16 AM »
Not a concern, just thought it was an interesting article. 

Although I have wondered about her character and fitness evaluation (maybe CA is a little more lax than most other states).  I also imagined jurors that have watched her tapes or even judges or peers.  Do you think it would affect her credibility; being taken seriously?

Politics and Law-Related News / Porn Star Goes to Law School
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:41:05 AM »
Porn Star Goes to Law School
by: Kriti Sood

Article Highlights:

* A graduating senior at CSUN and veteran of the adult entertainment industry, Traci, who goes by the alias Anita Cannibal, accepted to The University of West Los Angeles School of Law.
* Traci has been in the porn industry since 1994.
* Licensed as a legal prostitute in Nevada.
* Made thirty grand in Brothel after working twenty-something days.
* A business, finance and real estate major planning to provide online tutoring in which models wear a bra and underwear.
* She said the decision to expose will rest with the members; they could choose from sitting naked to simply flashing their feet or talking about sex.

4 Page Article, Only Page 1 is posted...  To access entire article, see link at bottom.

Porn Star Goes to Law School is the tag line of Traci's, aka Anita Cannibal's, MySpace profile page. These few words describe her excitement these days as she recently got accepted to The University of West Los Angeles School of Law.

A graduating senior at CSUN, Traci has been in the porn industry since 1994. Her list of movies goes up to about 129 in number and range from small feature films to big-budget movies.

Some of the recent movies that Traci has done include "Mature Women with Young Girls 16" (2006), "Barnyard Babes" (2005), "Porn Star: The Legend of Ron Jeremy" (2001) and "White Lightning" (2000).

According to Traci, her choice of profession was not something sudden, but a childhood interest.

"I was always in to it even as a little girl," she said. "I was born an exhibitionist. You know how some people are born gay. I guess the glitter and glam from the movies in seventies, when I was growing up, impacted me."

Although Traci has been primarily involved with the porn movies, she speaks of making a good amount of money from dancing.

"I danced on Burbank Street, on Broadway across from David Letterman Show," she said.

"I made a lot of money from dancing. I made like a million bucks when I was hot. Now, I am starving like any other student. I don't dance anymore, I don't feature."

Traci might not be featuring in the same amount of movies like before, however, the 36-year-old says that she still does some and will be doing one this week.

Movies and dancing has helped Traci make a fortune, but what she enjoys most is going to the brothels in Nevada.

"Going to brothels and getting license as a legal prostitute was the coolest thing," she said. "As a student, I had no social life, no contact with sexuality. I made thirty grand in twenty-one days last winter at brothels.

It was the best time ever. Guys that go there are the sweetest. You do a movie, you get off the set, it feels like you have been beaten up.

How Obscure Law School
Places Grads at Top Firms
May 23, 2007; Page B1
Wall Street Journal

Law students starting summer jobs at the New York office of a prominent national law firm come largely from the usual places: Harvard, Yale, Columbia, New York University and some local schools. Then there's Keith Marlowe of the University of Detroit Mercy School of Law.

Last fall, Mr. Marlowe applied for summer work at 110 U.S. firms and got no offers. But the Calgary, Alberta, native had an ace in the hole: private interviews, arranged by his law school, with some of the country's biggest firms, including Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP, which offered the 25-year-old a job paying about $3,000 a week.

In the stratified world of law, educational pedigree largely dictates where students will get a look. Firms want to signal to clients and colleagues that they only hire the best. As firms have grown and competition for junior lawyers has intensified, some firms have dipped below the Ivies and their equivalents. Nonetheless, a student from a school like Detroit Mercy -- firmly in the cellar of U.S. News & World Report's rankings of 184 accredited law schools -- hasn't stood a chance at the fancy firms.

But thanks to some masterful marketing by Detroit Mercy's dean, Mark C. Gordon, top students at the school are now gaining entree to the big leagues. In the last two years, a half-dozen students have been hired for summer or full-time jobs at firms like Mayer, Brown, Rowe and Maw LLP. Firms such as Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP and Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP now include Detroit Mercy in their select on-campus interview circuit.

A first-time dean and Harvard Law grad, Mr. Gordon got his school on the radar of the top-tier firms by enlisting a stable of big-time private-practice lawyers to join an advisory board that's now some 60 members strong. His pitch: Help Detroit Mercy improve its third-year curriculum by creating a required set of courses that simulate real-life practice.

Attorneys quickly suited up for the cause. When they arrived in Detroit for twice-a-year meetings, starting in 2005, Mr. Gordon made sure they not only helped remake the school's coursework but also inspected his top second-year students during private interviews, as well as others who were trotted out to give presentations on everything from trial advocacy to interpreting statutes. After last month's meeting, about 40 first-year students, handpicked by professors, were allowed to mingle with the board.

The idea of focusing the curriculum on practice resonated with the lawyers. In fact, many have long complained that law school devotes too much attention to theory and leaves students unprepared to practice, even as the market demands that firms pay new hires high salaries from day one. Many students are also no fans of the third year of school, feeling it's a repeat of the same kind of work analyzing cases that they did in the first two years.

Students "arrive and they don't know where they fit in, how to draft an escrow, a merger agreement," says Jonathan J. Lerner, a corporate partner at Skadden Arps who is on the Detroit Mercy board.

While some schools, like Columbia Law School, have coursework oriented to law-firm practice, it's generally not required. Stanford Law School offers a few elective "deals"-type courses, but the school is emphasizing new joint J.D.-master's degrees in which a law student, for example, would also study bioengineering. Transaction-simulation classes are an "inefficient way to learn content" says Stanford Law School Dean Larry Kramer, who recommends students take no more than one or two of them.

From Mr. Gordon's vantage point, if the practical coursework and advisory board help his students get a top job, it's fine with him.

"It's one thing to come out of Harvard, Yale, Stanford and be going to some of these firms, and it's another to come out of a school that doesn't have that pedigree," says Allan B. Moore, a partner at Covington & Burling who recently joined the Detroit Mercy board. "Mark is taking the ivory tower out of it."

Founded in 1912 and located in a three-story building across from General Motors headquarters, Detroit Mercy has an entering class of 265 students and is sponsored by two Roman Catholic groups, the Society of Jesus and the Sisters of Mercy of the Americas. Most graduates go into private practice primarily in the greater Detroit area.

The 46-year-old Mr. Gordon, raised in White Plains, N.Y., never expected to be a dean. After graduating from Harvard Law School in 1990, he worked at New York law firm Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP and later at the Department of Housing and Urban Development before teaching public affairs for six years at Columbia University.

In late 2000, on a flight to Maine to visit his grandmother, Mr. Gordon started talking with the director of a public-policy institute at the University of Southern Maine who was seated next to him. By the end of the flight she had encouraged him to apply to be dean of the university's public-policy school. He didn't get the job, but the idea intrigued him. He applied to a handful of public-policy and law schools that had openings, and, in 2001, he got a callback from Detroit Mercy.

The idea of going to work at a low-ranked school "was a positive factor," he says. "It's the schools that are not as well known that are most open to change."

Mr. Gordon and his wife, a structural engineer, bought a red-brick Colonial-style home two blocks past the Detroit city line, in Grosse Pointe, and moved there with their two young sons in 2002.

The new dean wanted to "integrate the realities of law practice in the classroom" and developed the idea further with faculty. He also called more than 100 alumni and practicing Detroit lawyers to ask their opinions about what the school should be doing. Through in-house lawyers at auto maker DaimlerChrysler and auto-parts company Delphi, Mr. Gordon contacted partners at prominent national firms -- most of whom had never heard of the school -- and reached out to a handful of Harvard Law School classmates to set up his board.

After receiving an unexpected call from Mr. Gordon last year, Thomas E. Kruger, a partner at Paul Hastings, agreed to meet the dean for breakfast near his law office in midtown Manhattan, convinced he would say "no" to whatever Mr. Gordon was asking for. Instead, a half-hour meeting turned into an hour and a half, and the partner signed on to the advisory board.

Mr. Kruger is now in charge of providing documents from actual cases (redacted) for use in the new curriculum, known as the Law Firm program, which lets students handle a complex case or transaction as if they were part of a large law firm. Each course focuses on a different department in a typical corporate firm, such as real estate, intellectual property, white-collar crime or antitrust law. After a pilot program this past semester, all third-year students will be required to take at least two courses in the program.

Prior to joining the board, Mr. Kruger had personally recruited only at Harvard, his alma mater; now he has added Detroit Mercy as a second stop. Having nine top national firms conduct on-campus interviews at Detroit Mercy is a coup for the school and a critical step toward building an institutional pipeline into the firms.

So far Detroit Mercy's successes haven't raised its stock in the U.S. News rankings, which weigh such factors as percentage of graduates employed after graduation, scores on the Law School Admission Test and the bar-exam passage rate. The Michigan bar-exam passage rate for Detroit Mercy students was below the state average for the 2005 summer exam, but last summer it rose to the average for the state.

"We were in the fourth tier before I was hired, and that's where we've remained," Mr. Gordon says. He adds that he's more concerned about the students' education and job prospects.

Placing students at high-paying jobs in the top firms can do more than add prestige to a school like Detroit Mercy. Later in life, successful graduates may be able to afford to give back. Says Ken Hemler, a 25-year-old Detroit Mercy law student from Warren, Mich., who got a job starting in the fall at Shearman & Sterling LLP in New York: "I plan on being on the hall-of-fame-donors list... if they have one."

Studying for the LSAT / Re: New Tests
« on: May 22, 2007, 05:29:22 PM »
Purchase Kaplan's LSAT Complete and you will get all the tests up to 45.  Check out Amazon or eBay.  It will probably cost about $20 or so.

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