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Law School Applications / Re: G'town Waitlist?
« on: December 08, 2006, 06:35:17 PM »
Don't stress, they are probably just yield protecting. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 08, 2006, 12:57:05 PM »
Excellent post!  Thanks!

I guess I have no choice but to attend both. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 08:42:17 PM »
i'll be at columbia. any more questions?

Sure.  If I remember, you are from the midwest, do you plan on returning?  Do you think there is a placement difference in the midwest?  I have heard Colum. is overly competitive, do you agree/have you heard this also?  Where are you planning to live?  Morningside?  


I went to visit the Columbia campus, and was not that impressed with the law school architecture, however my biggest concern was that food/groceries/bars etc..were expensive, combined with rent,etc..I guess my goals are: Top 100 biglaw, or Tier 1/high 2 academia, or solid semi-prestigous public sector.  So when I factor in the $20k extra to live three years in NYC, as well as the $20k or so scholarship I would lose, I am worried the extra $40k is not really worth it.  What do you think of all this?  How does it contrast to your goals?

thanks!



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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 08:29:16 PM »
I thought this was a hypothetical.  Columbia hasn't sent our RD acceptances yet, and they don't have EA, so the only way you would have gotten accepted by now if is you were ED, which means you pretty much have to go (of course this isn't set in stone, but technically you're bound to go).

I didn't think it was hypothetical.
So, is it then? Don't waste our time with hypotheticals!

Jesus.  I am in at UMich, and based on LSN will qualify for at least a dean's scholarship (well above 75%ile lsat, near 50%ile gpa) and my numbers put me at like a 45% for Columbia.  Regardless of my admission, I think this is not a waste of time, as this prestige difference question is interesting.

I just mean that until you have that Columbia acceptance in hand I don't think you'll know how you feel about it. It's not really worth discussing for that reason, especially since, really, the choice between two such highly regarded schools is very much a personal matter.

Well, I clearly disagree with you that this is not worth discussing.  Surely some other people will be in this position also.  I also understand it is a personal matter and relates to professional goals, but I think it is informative.

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Law School Applications / Re: Worst PS Titles?
« on: December 07, 2006, 01:20:11 PM »
"No, Seriously, There's Anthrax In My Application"

Awesome.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 01:18:49 PM »
Or you could go read a post about which Olsen twin is hotter or something.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 01:17:09 PM »
I thought this was a hypothetical.  Columbia hasn't sent our RD acceptances yet, and they don't have EA, so the only way you would have gotten accepted by now if is you were ED, which means you pretty much have to go (of course this isn't set in stone, but technically you're bound to go).

I didn't think it was hypothetical.
So, is it then? Don't waste our time with hypotheticals!

Jesus.  I am in at UMich, and based on LSN will qualify for at least a dean's scholarship (well above 75%ile lsat, near 50%ile gpa) and my numbers put me at like a 45% for Columbia.  Regardless of my admission, I think this is not a waste of time, as this prestige difference question is interesting.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 12:52:06 AM »
IF I wanted to go to the midwest and teach at a low tier 1 or high tier 2 school, or take an attorney general staff position, or work with a V50? does it matter?

At that level it doesn't really matter.  The differences don't start making themselves apparent until you get to the top jobs in every legal field (academia vs. gov't. vs. BIGLAW vs. non-profit, etc). 

Thanks for the advice.  I take it you are shooting for a top job.  Which field?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 12:13:42 AM »
IF I wanted to go to the midwest and teach at a low tier 1 or high tier 2 school, or take an attorney general staff position, or work with a V50? does it matter?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: December 07, 2006, 12:11:28 AM »
Okay, any thought on how much of an advantage?  I.e. it is way easier to become a prof from Columbia,etc...

It depends.  According to Leiter's rankings Columbia has produced more Supreme Court clerks over the last 10 years (2-3 per year) which is almost a prerequisite for top professorships.  That being said, Michigan definitely produces its fair share of SC clerks (1-2 per year).  Both have experience in producing future professors at top schools, but Columbia has a slight advantage.  Either way, the requisites will be the same at both schools: top grades, Law Review, published work, etc.

This brings me back to my original problem.  My (uninformed) view is that taking UMich over Columbia will hurt me primarily at the very elite of positions: best professorships, best biglaw positions, best government,etc...however will it really hurt for (not average but less rare) regular biglaw, profs, govt?  There may be a significant difference between top 10% at each school, but what about top 25%?



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