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Where should I go next fall? / Ann Arbor Summer Sublets?
« on: February 15, 2007, 07:06:31 PM »
Hey,

I'm wondering what I should expect to pay for a summer sublet (per month) as a UM summer starter.  (Sorry if this has been covered thoroughly in other boards)

Option 1: Within 5 minutes of Law Quad, basic one bedroom, one bath, one "living space" apartment

Option 2: Around 10 minutes from LQ, same quality

Option 3: 15 minutes away from LQ/boarderline must drive car to class, same quality.

Thanks for the help!


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<----------Admitted to NYU and Michigan.

<----------Not going to NYU.


/just sayin'.

For the benefit of this discussion may I ask why?

Because it seems like a better fit for my personality.  Besides, all the cool kids are goin' there ;).

But seriously, what you really want to know (it seems) is why am I not BOTHERED by going to Michigan over NYU.  Mainly I don't percieve the vast differences in prestige you're claiming.  If we can use SCOTUS clerkships as one example, flawed though it may be, NYU and Michigan place roughly the same.  The pure prestige rankings halfie (at least I think it was halfie) posted earlier in this very thread ranked NYU . . . what?  One place higher?  Big whoop.  I mean, the biggest difference between NYU and Michigan seems to come from everyone's favorite rankings whipping boy: US NEWS.  And speaking of prestige -at OCIs, the only V10 firms I can think of off the top of my head who DON'T interview at Michigan are Cleary and Wachtell . . . yes, mighty Cravath (with whom you seem obsessed, though lord only knows why, since all of their associates seem to hate the place) slogs out to Ann Arbor every year to interview Michigan students.  Surely they aren't wasting their time when they can (and do) just take a car 30 blocks for NYU?   

I can second as another person who turned down NYU for UM.  My decision was based primarily on the strength of the university as a whole, specifically the top 3 polysci PHD program.  NYU Law is an excellent school for certain career choices, but I felt (and still feel) that UM as a whole is a much stronger university with better alumni and excellent cross-discipline potential (JD/MA, JD/PHD).  I should also add that geography (midwest) was a strong consideration. 
 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: GW vs. UT
« on: February 09, 2007, 06:01:09 PM »
I think this thread has some good points for sure, UT's prestige is generally higher outside the DC area in my opinion, but I'll leave it to others to debate.  I can give you my thoughts after visiting each last spring.

UT: Bad building.  Dark, outdated.  Few windows.  Located in poor part of campus. 
GDub: cramped building, nicer and newer, located very close to the mall.  Good stuff, but kind of compact. 

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Law School Applications / Re: Law Schools... of the Future
« on: February 08, 2007, 01:02:23 PM »
The University of Michigan has their "The Michigan Difference" Campaign which has raised over 2billion dollars, and will total over 2.5 billion.  $100million or so will go to the law school.  So safe to say UM is going to stay in T14

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 02, 2007, 03:46:28 PM »
I will likely be going to one of these schools next year.  I moved to Boulder all for the purpose of getting into CU w/ in-state tuition!  But now I've learned a lot about DU and been to visit a few times and would definitely not feel bad about going there.  I work in a law office in Denver and practically everyone graduated from DU, so I know the job market should treat you well coming from DU.

And I'll repeat what everybody else said about people being surprised CU is ranked higher than DU.  My aunt and uncle didn't even believe me when I told them!

I have to repeat, it really should NOT matter what lay people think re: rankings.  All that matters professionally is what people WHO KNOW LAW think.  Your aunt and uncle are probably wonderful people but it's highly doubtful they'll be hiring you for their firm, making salary decisions, or any other decisions related to your career. 


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 02, 2007, 02:07:57 PM »
I have lived in Colorado my whole life and I can tell you my own personal thoughts on the two schools. It basically boils down like this-DU has always had a really great reputation in Colorado. Everyone I know thinks of DU as an elite college with really really smart kids. On the other hand, CU has always been known as the party school, they always seem to show up in the news for deaths from alchohol poisoning or football rape cases. Basically CU is known as a hippie party school. Although it is true they are currently raned higher than DU, I bet that any Colorado native would be surprised to hear that. Very surprised! SO it is a tough call. I think if you want to stay in Colorado, DU is almost a better choice.

Your personal thoughts suck.

nice dirk, niiiiiice.

One perception on prestige is just a terrible way to gauge this choice.  Okay, I guess for a more articulate answer, I’d say it’s not clear cut, more of a personal preference issue.  

For CU:
1.   It’s way cheaper
2.   It’s a solid Tier1, and with a new building and solid faculty – will stay that way if not improve.  (has also been rising up USNWR last 3 yrs)
3.   Places solidly in CO business, very well with judges and govt (research state supreme court, other judges, DA’s, the Governor…)
4.   It has a WAY better bar passage rate (this point really matters)
5.   Boulder is beautiful, closer to recreation

Against CU:
1.   Pretty awful state funding sources, high dependency on student $$
2.   Business placement should be stronger  - given ranking
3.   “Party School” perception of undergrad – but this is debatable, yes there are alcohol deaths, police issues, etc..but also 4 nobel prizes in the last decade, nationally ranked programs, Enviro programs galore, Byron White Center
4.   Average salary should be better

For DU:
1.   Better Law School building (they’re pretty similar, but DU has a nice feel)
2.   Business connections in Denver – top 25% to top 10% place very well in big Denver firms.
3.   Healthy funding from school, perception of “elite” school.
4.   Denver is a fun city, seat of govt, etc…
5.   Steady rise up the 2nd Tier for a few years now, no reason to believe   they’ll stop getting better.
6.   Perception advantages – maybe this helps with dates or family, but people who know law probably don’t care at all.

Against DU:
1.   Very expensive, given the fairly low starting salary for those not in the top 25%
2.   Tier 2
3.   Terrible bar passage rates
4.   From purely anecdotal evidence (take this with a grain of salt) the career services placement dept. is not very helpful if you’re below the top 25%ile of the class. (however I have no evidence CU is any better)

Given these choices, if I were considering CU or DU, I would go with CU straight up or DU with a healthy scholarship.  However with both, it’s important to place well in your class, take advantage of summer internships, and make an effort to expand networking skills.  With this last point in mind, I return to my original comment, that it’s a personal preference issue: Generally speaking, the happier you are, the better you will do.  Placement is important with regional schools.  Don’t take CU if you hate Boulder, it might affect your performance.  Ditto with DU.  Also, remind yourself how fortunate you are to be going to either school, which very many prospective law students will be unable to attend.



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Where should I go next fall? / Re: U. Colorado or U. Denver? Help!!
« on: February 01, 2007, 07:06:03 PM »
I have lived in Colorado my whole life and I can tell you my own personal thoughts on the two schools. It basically boils down like this-DU has always had a really great reputation in Colorado. Everyone I know thinks of DU as an elite college with really really smart kids. On the other hand, CU has always been known as the party school, they always seem to show up in the news for deaths from alchohol poisoning or football rape cases. Basically CU is known as a hippie party school. Although it is true they are currently raned higher than DU, I bet that any Colorado native would be surprised to hear that. Very surprised! SO it is a tough call. I think if you want to stay in Colorado, DU is almost a better choice.

Your personal thoughts suck.

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I assume both beat out traffic court...

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I know very little about clerkships, my question is whether clerking for a State Supreme Court or a random Federal District Court is more prestigious.  Thanks!

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LSAT horror stories / Re: Poll: How many pencils did you use on the LSAT?
« on: January 10, 2007, 10:02:17 PM »
For the first LSAT, i chose a black/blue mechanical pencil like a month before to use.  For the second, I found one in my car the morning of the test before I drove to the LSAT test room.  Perhaps not unrelated, I did much better on the second test. 

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