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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UVA vs. Duke vs. Penn vs. Michigan
« on: February 26, 2007, 04:47:34 PM »
this is all so totally subjective -- for me, Mich > UVA > Duke/Penn.

but it depends on what you want to do, the sort of law school community you want, what sort of money you might be getting, etc.

I generally agree with this, but it's UM ≥ UVA > Penn > Duke. 

Penn's lower peer ranking may improve in 10-20 years, but my experience has been that it's not as strong as the first two.  UVA churns out judges and senators, not just biglaws, ditto UM.  All four schools are great at fundraising (no Boalt problem), all understand the system.  I think comparing 1 or 2 point differences in median LSATs is mostly useless.  Also, the architecture of a building IS important, even if you're buried in a book.  Look at the READING ROOM at UM, it's inspiring, not just "cool." 

Law School Admissions / Re: GW JD - Worth $180,000?
« on: February 21, 2007, 03:04:45 PM »
i was going to start a thread asking a similar question. I'm in at ND, and am wondering if the small rank difference is worth the significant price difference. any thoughts on GW vs. ND?

ND allegedly has an excellent biglaw alumni network, especially in Chicago.  So if you make a big effort to go to the myraid mixers,etc...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: T14 options working 55-60 hours a week?
« on: February 20, 2007, 01:25:08 PM »
I've mentioned this in other threads before, but I seriously don't think the billable hour model is the right one for me.  I just can't imagine living my life in six-minute intervals, and having to account for every single six-minute interval of my work day. 

Agreed, I will need to really discipline myself.  At my job now (which I am good at) I constantly stop writing memos to look at Washpost, gmail,etc...It will be difficult (especially given that I want to bill fairly) to discipline my focus to client specific thoughts and work.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: T14 options working 55-60 hours a week?
« on: February 20, 2007, 01:17:30 PM »
I've read elsewhere that it's generally a 2/3 and 1/3 thing:

2/3 of your day is probably billable
1/3 is probably not (checking email, talking to coworker, coffee, etc...)

Some may report closer to 75/25, but I think they're just understating the unbillable time. 


1800 hours billable = 2700 hours total (55hours a week x 49 weeks)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: T14 options working 55-60 hours a week?
« on: February 20, 2007, 12:44:46 PM »
Wouldn't 40 hours a week billed be over 2000 hrs a year? There have to be firms with 1800 billable hours required, aren't there?

I hate the idea of having to clock in though, so I'll most likely be looking to a federal job after graduation (unless I can suck it up and do biglaw for a year or two just to save some money).

There are certainly firms out there above the $125k mark who say that the billing requirement is 1800-1950 annually, but from everything I've heard, I'm led to believe that these are baseline, and that you'll need to be at like 2100-2250...which is 65-70 hours a week if you go by the 2/3rds formula.

Incoming 1Ls / T14 options working 55-60 hours a week?
« on: February 20, 2007, 10:28:51 AM »

Biglaw billing requirements and hours worked sound pretty terrible to me.  Coming from a T14, will there be options for firms asking for 55-60 hours worked (35-40hr billed) a week?  Do they also recruit like Biglaw?  What kind of salary range would this be? 

I think the Penn people could help out here, they seem to know the firm stuff.  I'm looking to make over 100k, but have a fairly balanced life.  Is this possible?


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan 1L Taking Questions
« on: February 20, 2007, 08:54:16 AM »
Law students *need* pets for stress relief. :)

my friend was just telling me yesterday how i should get a dog.  i want one...but i don't think i'll be able to deal with one 1L year...

My plan is to get through a semester without a dog and consider the option then.  I want to make sure I have time/energy/$$ for a dog.  I have heard from others that getting a dog is a good idea though. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: February 20, 2007, 08:47:15 AM »

Congrats on being pretty much done w/ this whole process.  And a PhD afterward?  Man, you must really love initials after your name.

Well, the PhD thing is a long way away, so who knows what I'll end up doing.  My undergrad experience consisted mainly of drinking and skipping class, with a sudden realization over xmas break 2005 that I should probably go to law school.  So I'd like to avoid repeating the same poor career planning of the last four years and try to keep my menu of choice as broad as possible.  Congrats to you on H.  I have two friends in the fall class who are completely wonderful people and hopefully you'll get to know them.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Taking UMich over Columbia???
« on: February 19, 2007, 11:57:42 AM »
Update on my decision:

I ended up on the Columbia waitlist, however I did get into NYU, which is a similar senario.  I ended up sending in my UM deposit, and my current plan is to do the JD/MA program, and then try to jump to a top 5 PHD (H,P,S) program in 3.5 years.

Good discussion. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Ann Arbor Summer Sublets?
« on: February 15, 2007, 04:13:12 PM »
I should add that I've heard crazy things, like $300 for an entire summer. 

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