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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Life As An Associate
« on: November 08, 2007, 09:57:02 AM »
I don't get this desire to dress down in the first place. Wouldn't people have a natural desire to look as good as possible? Not just in the court room, but in your professional life generally? I know I much prefer to put on a great looking suit when going to something formal than trying to just make the minimum required dress code.

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This is not bragging, but I want to say something about Mensa in general and their ceiling. They exist solely because people want to feel like they are somehow special or better than someone else. Now, a lot of groups are like this and I would say it is a very common trait in people. Everyone wants to be unique, which is silly because you can't help but be unique, and far too many people want to feel like they are better than others (or already do and are just looking for independent verification of what they've suspected all along)

I, personally, have broken the 140 on my IQ tests since I started receiving them (every school I've went to seems to want to run them, or request that my mother get it done... they also asked my mother to get me a CAT scan, so tha says about how much they know about medicine or psychology in general) but that doesn't mean anything, hell lookit my numbers  ::)

I agree, and I don't think anyone yet has disagreed with any of this :)

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Where do you go to take an IQ test?  I've always been very curious.  I called the psychology department at my school and they said they only do it if there's a legitimate counseling reason.  Where else can you go?

Mensa's tests would probably be a good place to start. They administer tests 3-4 times a year in a lot of locations.

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Your original argument was you couldnt distinguish between them and I disagreed in the strongest terms with this. As I said before tho I readily concede intelligence isnt some magical thign that boosts yoru ability to be interesting in conversations. Real life experience and a unique world-view help here.

No, my original statement was that you wouldn't spot the difference in an everyday conversation. That is, typical small talk, friend to friend dialog. But even for more technical topics, you're more likely to notice their difference in education not in IQ.

MENSA tests are a joke.  The ceiling on them is around 140, I dont think I missed a single question.

Also, they dont tell you a score, just whether you "passed"

They do over here at least. And yes, all correct = 140, 1 error = 136, 2 errors = 132. At least that was the scale on the test I took. 132 was the minimum requirement for admission to Mensa I believe. Although being a joke for not scaling over 140... Well. That's not a joke for about 99.3% of the population, so how about you go ace the Mensa test first and if you're still confident you can do better, take a SB5, Otis-Lennon or DAS or whatever.

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Where do you go to take an IQ test?  I've always been very curious.  I called the psychology department at my school and they said they only do it if there's a legitimate counseling reason.  Where else can you go?

Mensa's tests would probably be a good place to start. They administer tests 3-4 times a year in a lot of locations.

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Your original argument was you couldnt distinguish between them and I disagreed in the strongest terms with this. As I said before tho I readily concede intelligence isnt some magical thign that boosts yoru ability to be interesting in conversations. Real life experience and a unique world-view help here.

No, my original statement was that you wouldn't spot the difference in an everyday conversation. That is, typical small talk, friend to friend dialog. But even for more technical topics, you're more likely to notice their difference in education not in IQ.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: What's the Max Point Jump?
« on: November 08, 2007, 01:51:54 AM »
Are you talking about from diagnostic to real test or between a first test and a retake?

In the first case you can easily do a 60 point jump, it's just about prepping.

As for retaking, I improved from a 156 to a 178, and I'm confident anyone putting in the same amount of work can do the same.

ě- Your advice is consistently worthless. If you know ANY way to "easliy" get a 180 you would be exploiting that secret for millions. You wouldn't be saying retarded things on a board where peopel are tyrign to get help.

Whatever.

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Law School Applications / Re: Addenda for minor traffic violations?
« on: November 07, 2007, 09:48:06 AM »
Just disclose it. No adcom is going to give a crap about such minor issues, however an adcom would give a crap if they felt you hadn't disclosed something they wanted you to.

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I reccomend you meet a few people with an IQ of 160 and a fewe who you knwo to be in the 105 area. If you can't spot the difference I will eat my hat. (And no pretending you dont see it).

Or how is this for an experiemnt you give me ten people 5 105's, 5 160's and I will only converse, no testing. And I will bet 1k per person I can tell them apart.

Actually, I know a lot of people in both camps. Personally, I have a 165 score on a Stanford-Binet 5 test, about the most accurate test around. I have several high IQ friends, among others a surgeon and an astrophysicist, both extremely intelligent, neither particularly interesting as a conversation partner. I also have friends working as shop clerks, and that kinda stuff. I have a friend who flunked out of high school, never completed any education, probably would struggle to beat 100 on an IQ test, but he's a top level snowboarder, he has traveled the world, seen and experienced things most people never will. I'll pick him for a conversation over the astrogeek any day of the week.

I honestly think what you mean by intelligence isn't actual intelligence, its experience and knowledge. Thinking that can only come from education or being genetically gifted is very snobbish and very naive. Instead of me meeting more of the same people I already know, I'd suggest you start socializing with a bit different crowd and perhaps keep a more open mind.

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the 160's will likely be much more socially awkward than the 105's

Ive been tested between 150-160 (no, not by online tests, those say my IQ is approaching 1 in 1 billion  Roll Eyes ), and I cant hold up a conversation to save my life.
I dunno, many people struggle with this and I don't think it's related to your IQ at all. I think perhaps more intelligent people are more aware and bothered by their social awkwardness because they feel that they should be the center of conversation.

 

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Personal Statement / Re: Avoiding contractions in the PS?
« on: November 07, 2007, 06:30:30 AM »
They are, at least at all the schools I applied to.

Really? At what schools?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Is NYU Private or Public?
« on: November 07, 2007, 06:21:23 AM »
I think Lindbergh has just slid into poopyhead territory recently :)

 ???

I dunno, I found his posts to be somewhat useful every now and then earlier.

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Wouldn't it?

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