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I can agree with you on this because the argument I used to use for those asians that are immigrants are those who could afford to come over here or were blessed enough/motivated to come over here and those individuals HAD to make it. I believe that same idea can be used for the other minorities. Many come over here and begin working hard trying to earn an income for them and their families back home in their homeland.

So then that would almost make the problem entirely AMerican AND have it directly reflect class. America's lack of emphasis on the educational system and how even in their "No Child Left Behind" mantra, many are disregarded and neglected and how our math and science skills are behind other countries.

I dunno, education is one of passions and it greatly disturbs me when I think that many of peoples do just throw away their opportunity for success. At my University our Male retention rate for AA males was 29%, We graduated them at a %3% over a 6 year period. That aint good. In Columbus, Cincinnati, and Cleveland the high school graduation for the inner cities were 53%, 34% & 51%, respectively.

I just looked up some educational statistics, because it is not something that has been a significant focus for me. However, the numbers are certainly indicate a serious problem. Now that you have explained a bit more, I see how you are arriving at the conclusion that the problem is an American one and often a reflection of class.  To me, it seems like the issue is multifaceted. But what do you feel is the main cause? For minority groups and everyone on a whole?

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Troll...good job on keeping it going as long as you have...

::tips hat::



So because I have a different opinion/perception than you, that somehow makes me a troll. OOOOkkkk...

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BrerAnansi,

Is it that serious to you that you need to be sending nasty PMs?

Remember you are the one who took offense to my statement, which is why you received some comments about not understanding people who come from other countries/recent americans.

If anyone feels that I have a superiority complex, they have every right to hold that opinion. However, I think it is utterly ridiculous.  I am tired of some people like yourself you cannot stand to see other people accomplish anything and be recognized for it unless they are "just like you."

Why don't you post this nasty PM of yours...or better yet, tell us about all the PMs you got in support?

I'll let you post just what you sent me. The other responses which I am referring to are on this board. My point is that the discussion is here in this thread.  Let's just keep it that way please.

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BrerAnansi,

Is it that serious to you that you need to be sending nasty PMs?

Remember you are the one who took offense to my statement, which is why you received some comments about not understanding people who come from other countries/recent americans.

If anyone feels that I have a superiority complex, they have every right to hold that opinion. However, I think it is utterly ridiculous.  I am tired of some people like yourself you cannot stand to see other people accomplish anything and be recognized for it unless they are "just like you."

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I am goin to try to state this less rushed, less generalized and more eloquently. Overall We are all AA once we get here. I am AA. My parents are African. It is our group as a WHOLE that does not place an importance on education. Of course we are here about to go to law school, but if my parents were not at home telling me that I couldnt depend on going to the NFL for my living, I would not be going to law school. My friends all sell drugs. Just to place an understanding of where I am coming from. So yes maybe it is more of a class issue and then it plays on the educational issue.But to say that education is important in the AA community more than it is in others is hogwash.

There are 5 MAJOR socializing agents; Family, Friends, Education/School, Government, Religion. To use the teaching example again. If you are at a school and most of the students do not think that being educated will get them out of the hood, and their parents at home are telling them that education wont make them successful and they see this when people who get out of jail are more celebrated than those who are going or graduating from college then there is a problem. But I am sorry for my overgeneralization. I thought we were commenting on a group of people and not just individuals.

AND yes I know Nigerians to be very crooked and GREEDY people. LOL That was funny, but at least an importance is placed on education to get there.

I'm not sure I can agree. I believe there is a huge divide in the U.S. black community.  Many are focused on education while many are not. Everyone is not living in the hood and a  significant number attend good schools and are on the college track.

And regarding Nigerians, I think Moni was hinting on something to the effect that often times the people who come here are the ones who are very motivated. In the case of a number of Africans in particular, a significant number have attained their degrees back home. I'm sure that there are some people in Nigeria and any other nation who do not place enough emphasis on education. It's just that here there is so much opportunity that people  have difficulty understanding when people do not grasped it as quickly...

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Don't you know it's bad form to roll your eyes at those who've been robbed of their identity?  Salt in the wound...

Ok, good one...I give that to you.  :)

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But a lot of times it implies culture vs culture (ie ladi's comments on aa culture)

Which comments about AA culture are you refering to?

Lolz...

 ::)

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eh so where are you now? regionally, of course.  i'm in el northeast. you?


I'm in the east, not really north or south.

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i dont want to say exactly bc i dont want to be traced. but alas! south of the border!

LOL! Gotcha!

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But a lot of times it implies culture vs culture (ie ladi's comments on aa culture)

Which comments about AA culture are you refering to?

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