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Southern Methodist / Re: SMU Law Starter Thread
« on: August 01, 2005, 10:47:36 PM »
I don't know if you are in the day or the evening program. If you are in the day program, the trickiest profs from my section have been moved to evening. From my experience Bridge was hard, but he just wants you to know the material thoroughly.  Professor Gaba will take you through lots of hoops in class, but he really just wants you to know the black letter law and those cases that he spends 2 or three days on for the exam. Torts with Professor Dyson is supposed to be good, but his exams are rumored to be miserable.

Oh, and watch the SMU undergrad stuck up comment. I went to SMU undergrad, and so does my SO.  :-\   :D 

Some of the students are really stuck up.  That just comes with the territory of law school, I think.  Most people find their niche in their section with 4 or 5 other classmates and they become your fastest and best friends in life. Everyone else you will just be courteous to, because you never know when your paths might cross again.

I'm surprised that you don't have a schedule yet . . .check on access and see if its posted yet, if you haven't already. Hmmmmmmm.

Don't apologize for the questions . . .that's the purpose of a discussion board!  ;)

Good luck!



Starbucks is across the street . . .I'm not sure if they have free wireless. The entire law school should be wireless soon, and the new dining hall should be wireless so you could get coffee there.  Most of the campus is wireless, so if you want to get away from other law students (trust me, you will thank me for this later), you can go to the undergrad libraries, or even outside if the weather is nice. There's also a coffeeshop/internet cafe opening in the student center this month.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info. Starbucks doesnt have free wireless but I did find a cool spot near downtown (ill probably be studying here if it remains as quiet as it is now).

How are the students at the law school? I noticed a lot of the guys wearing greek shirts which reminds me of my undergrad classes. Are the people as stuck up as the SMU undergrads? Also, what 1L professors should we watch out for (meaning the ones that try to deliberately trick you on the exams and cant/wont teach)? Sorry for all these questions, but I just finished my loan papers and all those zeros are beginning to scare me. ;)

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Southern Methodist / Re: SMU Law Starter Thread
« on: August 01, 2005, 03:42:52 PM »
Starbucks is across the street . . .I'm not sure if they have free wireless. The entire law school should be wireless soon, and the new dining hall should be wireless so you could get coffee there.  Most of the campus is wireless, so if you want to get away from other law students (trust me, you will thank me for this later), you can go to the undergrad libraries, or even outside if the weather is nice. There's also a coffeeshop/internet cafe opening in the student center this month.

Hope this helps.

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Southern Methodist / Re: SMU Law Starter Thread
« on: July 28, 2005, 06:15:39 PM »
sure! no problem. :D Welcome to SMU!! ;D

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Southern Methodist / Re: SMU Law Starter Thread
« on: July 28, 2005, 05:42:27 PM »
Everyone pretty much wears what they want. Most people who dress up do it because they want to, or because they work part time (or have on campus interviews), not because they have to dress up for class.  I would suggest the book Getting To Maybe . . .I forget the author, but if you type that in on amazon.com they should be able to get you the publisher's information. I never read planet law school, but some people recommend it. Please don't be shy about asking questions . . .that's the whole point of the board!


Are there any books you would suggest? Someone mentioned Planet Law School II, but I was wondering if there was anything you read that was particularly helpful! Also, how do the students dress? Ok, I will refrain from asking any other questions! :-X

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Southern Methodist / Re: SMU Law Starter Thread
« on: July 28, 2005, 12:45:30 AM »
I'm a soon to be 2L at SMU . . .if you have any questions, let me know!  ;D

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: entering 2nd year -need advice
« on: July 06, 2005, 07:49:12 PM »
Personally, I think that the professor does not know you.  1L is hard on purpose. At my school, we had six classes (5 law classes plus legal writing) . . .who has 6 classes when they know nothing about the subject matter?  I think, that next year, having only five classes alone will be a tremendous help. Even better is that I will only have exams in three classes, and one class grades will be performance and the other will be based on papers.

You have to do a personal assessment of what works best for you. I know people who are part time students who aren't doing better in law school necessarily because of that status.

I don't have a good gpa either, but part time is not an option. I will graduate from law school in may 2007.  Its just that simple. Did you do study groups? Doing study groups can make (or break) your grades, depending on your own personal study preferences. I studied with groups the first semester .  .. . it was a disaster . . .I put in less time and started studying by myself and doing practice problems by myself, doing analysis by myself, and it helped me a lot.

Part time means more time to complete law school . . .do you really want to be in school for an extra year?  Personally, I want to get out and start practicing already . . .

Whatever you decide, good luck.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: entering 2nd year -need advice
« on: July 03, 2005, 04:18:50 PM »
Going to professors to review old exams is helpful only if you have that professor again, I have found. Study aids are helpful, but see if you can find someone who had the same classes as you in the previous year to see what study aids they recommend. There's a constitutional law supplement by Erwin Chemerinsky that was immensely helpful for Constitutional Law. 2Ls and 3Ls at my school have said that flashcards are helpful for evidence.  I don't really know about criminal procedure.

Also, don't believe the hype about not being able to study before classes start. I think this is basically true for entering 1L's, because you have no idea of what is going on in a law school classroom. But after sitting in law classes for a year, you know what's important and what isn't even if your exam scores don't reflect that. You might want to start listening to some tapes or CDs for your courses to get familiar with the terminology and the black letter law.  That way when school starts you can focus more on what's important in the cases rather than trying to learn the black letter law and the cases at the same time. This might take some of the pressure off, too.

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SMU is building a new fitness complex . . .the plans look pretty spectacular and part of it will be ready for use this fall.  We can use the gyms with our student fees, and classes (dance, aerobics, etc.) you can either pay as you go, or pay for an entire class for credit. I'm sure this varies tremendously with each school, though.

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: entering 2nd year -need advice
« on: July 02, 2005, 09:18:34 PM »
I can't really give you advice for the long term, but I can tell you that you are not alone.  I felt much the same way.  I did better my second semester, but not as well as I had hoped.

Probably the best thing you can do right now, in my opinion, is to actually take a break from the law.  Take a break from law books, law people, anything related to law school, and then see if you miss it.  I did this and I missed law terribly.  The fact that I missed it so much has made me want to recommit myself to law school, no matter what my grades are.  I am in law to really help people, not to be a prestigious person who makes partner in a law firm or something like that. If you are in law for the right reasons, I think that taking a break will leave you being refreshed and will give you a new perspective.

My two cents.

By the way, keep your head up. You are not dumb, and you probably have not done much wrong, if you are still enrolled in law school (meaning you didn't flunk out).  Lots of my so called friends implied that I was  "dumb" because I didn't do well, and for awhile, I started to believe it (stupid, foolish,I know, but I did). If there are people around you that are doing this, get them out of your life. It will do you a world of good. Also remember that no matter how hard everyone works in law school, there will be some people who are in the bottom half of the class--its just simple math.

If you are in law school for the right reasons, I think you will be fine if you just remember why you committed to this. Improvement is relative. Have you improved as a person? Your law school GPA is not the story of your life. Things can, and will, get better if you want to practice law. 

Good luck. Hope this helps.

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Book Sales and Trades / 1L Study Materials on E-bay
« on: June 29, 2005, 11:12:24 AM »
I just listed my 1L study materials on e-bay as a group.  They are currently priced well worth their worth if purchased, and all are in good condition.  These study aids were extremely helpful to me, especially during the second semester once I started to figure things out.  The starting price is well below what this group of study aids is worth, so don't miss out!!

THE TITLE OF THE GROUP IS: LAW STUDENT STUDY AID SURVIVAL KIT--BOOKS, FLASHCARDS. IF YOU TYPE THIS INTO THE SEARCH ENGINE ON www.ebay.com, THE LISTING SHOULD COME RIGHT UP. 

(I tried to put up a link, but they are not working).

Thanks!!

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