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Current Law Students / Re: US Attorney's Interview
« on: February 16, 2008, 04:36:27 PM »
Make sure you tell them you are interested in litigation and elaborate based on your experiences (moot court, mock trial, clinic experience, etc.)

Current Law Students / Re: need help/advice
« on: February 16, 2008, 04:34:21 PM »
You should probably be looking at doing some volunteer work this summer with a nonprofit or government agency that is not concerned about grades.  If they let you do some meaningful work, this will be very marketable for your resume for post law school jobs. 

E-mail/internet apps and resumes don't always pan out, because everyone is sitting in front of their computer doing the exact same thing. You have to put out A LOT of resumes (prob. 100-200+) before you even start getting phone calls, let alone offers.

The market is flooded on every level.  It takes a lot more now to get almost any type of job.  Except law enforcement.

Current Law Students / Re: strange world of public interest careers
« on: February 06, 2008, 09:09:53 PM »
If that is really what you want to do, you need to get some experience now.  Volunteer at some legal aid offices or other legal nonprofits.  Meeting people and working with them are two totally different things.

People worry too much about fitting in.  If you are passionate about the work, and you have experience, it will show.  Its important to be cordial and to get along with co workers, but you do not have to be carbon copies.

Job Search / Re: Bar membership and jobs
« on: February 06, 2008, 09:05:58 PM »
You have to find something else to do, because it is hard to find work if you haven't by the time you take the bar.  And there's no guarantee that you'll find something immediately, even after that. 

And even with the DA's office, you need to try and get some experience there, if you don't already have some in criminal law. Since you do have to survive, try to find a good part time job--law clerk or paralegal that actually pays enough to try and live off of for a few months, very frugally-- and spend the rest of the time at the DA's office. If that is really what you want to do find a local office and intern there, so as soon as you pass the bar you can be ready for any openings that might be available. 

So many people think that this work is easy to get for some reason.  With the DA's office, any government positions, public interest, they want to know why you want to work there, and they want to see some sort of past action that reflects that.  If you can't, they can easily find someone who does. 

Good luck! 

Current Law Students / Re: Cover letter for PD/DA summer clerk positions?
« on: February 05, 2008, 05:59:31 AM »
This is acceptable as long as you let the DA's office know this in your cover letter. Generally speaking, official transcripts (since they cost so much sometimes) are not required until you either get an interview or an offer--except maybe with larger firms and/or judicial clerkships.

Also, one of the requirements it that I submit a transcript. I have my contacted my school and they have told me that it might take like a week for them to give me an official one. Would it be OK if I submitted an "unofficial" one with my application and then have the school send them my official one so that I can submit this asap?

Right.  You are either way overqualified . . .  I have stopped counting the e-mails that I've gotten that say this, or someone else interviewed that had experience.  What's the point of summer clerkships and part time jobs during 2L and 3L?  Realistically, with the rigor of law school education, even the part time jobs are a little much to ask.  The reason that I even did them was more for the money than for the experience. 

I can deal with the crap in terms of being in law school, not being comfortable, having ups and downs, competition, etc.  But not being able to find ANY FULL TIME JOB when you get out? Now that is depressing. You are better off with a bachelor's in liberal arts alone.  At least then, the person that's hiring you doesn't see you as a threat to their job--and retaliates, even if you are more qualified than someone else.   

I wasnt depressed until I tried finding a job.  f**ck this *&^%.

Current Law Students / Re: Law Review "prep"?
« on: January 31, 2008, 12:27:53 PM »

Even when you get out of law school, you will still have to do a lot of reading.  Read for fun--because a lot of the stuff you read in law school won't be all that fun. 

I recommend the Volokh book...but not now.  If you haven't start law school yet, don't prep.  Take DCB's advice and read, read, read.  Read for pleasure.  Read fiction, read about things you're interested in.  Not only will it help you  increase your reading speed, but it's also a good way to glut yourself on something you probably won't have time to do for a good amount of time (a lot of people are surprised or complain about the fact they just don't have time to read anything they *want* to read during 1L).

Unfortunately, career services isn't always that helpful.  Truth is, they are very overworked. For instance, at my school, there are 3-4 people trying to place students.

Thanks, you've all been a great help (more so than my career services, I might add).

Current Law Students / Re: Cover letter for PD/DA summer clerk positions?
« on: January 31, 2008, 08:08:04 AM »
Exactly.  Write about a few of your strengths as well that are great in any position--time management, multitasking, etc. 

Just follow a basic cover letter format and add in a reason why you are applying to PDs and DAs (like, you have experience with them, you plan to pursue criminal law, etc.).

This is the best answer.  Unless you think you might consider the other job--in which case, you shouldn't have accepted the first offer. 

The best thing to do is call as soon as you know that you won't be taking the position--that should have been as soon as you accepted another offer.

On week or three days, I'd call and let them know you've accepted another offer.  If you have any personal connections at the firm/office, you may want to also call them and explain - you don't want to burn any bridges.

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