you are not getting my point. im not talking about the resume. if thats the case, then lets leave HLS out..and insert whatever T2 school. same issue applies. basically you are saying that not only the quality of the education is better (and im not saying that its not necessarily) but say all of the fundamentals are taught at each school. The grading is subjective of course, but the information is fundamentally the same. the only difference is the perceived quality of the students based upon their undergrad grades and lsat score...(lsat score to me is the only applicable evaluation tool) and their family name...sometimes.
I went to school in japan growing up. (i am american) our education was 100000000% better than any in american public school and most private. If a kid grows up in a private school, gets good grades like most kids should, their parents pay out the ass for it, then get a good recommendation to a top notch school. go thru and since they dont have any life issues to have to worry about because their parents set them up (cant complain about that, wish i had that). they did good at school like they should have, then with good named school that they probably didnt have to pay for themselves, and average grades...3.5+ they are able to get into HLS because their pops or moms is a professional and is able to surround that kid with people that can help him score really well...like the tutors in the Firm that helped TC pass the bar.
now you tell me how that student is Better than a kid that went to a state school...busted his ass, but has a kid and had to work 40+ hours a week. made good grades in college, but it took him a little longer because of family obligations. took lsat, and scored eeehh..a 160 or 164 for whatever reason that dude has to go to cooley. they are giving him money and he still has to work, but the amount of money he is getting enables him to work only parttime and still be able to take care of his fam.
the second dude is garbage? the first guy is inherently better? the first dude who doesnt have mommy and daddy around doesnt do as good, but still finishes with a 2.3 and the other dude finishes with a 3.7.
ok the people doing the hiring also came from the same background as the first guy, so they hire him. the second guy finishes in the top 3% of his class. but he doesnt come from ease like the first guy. he also applies to the place. he isnt hired because he is a worker bee.
does that make the second guy inherently worse than the first guy? are you telling me that a 3.7 is not better than a 2.3? are you telling me that the first guy getting the 2.3 could make a 4.0 at cooley? are you telling me that the 3.7 guy couldnt do that at harvard?
i know the school name is key. and i never said that i wont transfer either..im a professional, so i understand the complexities of where you did your education...im well aware. but what i have a problem with is those people that are posting on webforums all over the web that never went to cooley, are in T1 schools, and douchebagishly talk about how what they are or where they go is better than even attending in the first place. anyone that says that is a moron in my opinion! point blank. flame me all you like. but the fact remains, if you have never lived a life, then you will never understand that sometimes life throws you a curve. if you are 20 or 24 or whatever and have never done or accomplished anything but making a turd that is so long that you take a picture of it or you have to call your friends so they can see it....then i feel sorry for you. you do people a disservice by telling people that their school will suck so much that you might as well not even go. maybe someone should have told your parents that they shouldnt have had sex because their kid was going to grow up and be a feminine hygiene product! neither listened...so deal with the decision or mistake that people made.
I will be at cooley in a few weeks. i will from day one be politic-ing all over the world because i know how. If the consensus is that i need to leave, then i will. if i feel like the quality of my education is garbage compared to my peers at other schools, then i will leave. if you are looking at the school that gets you a job the easiest, then you deserve that easy ass job. I on the other hand will be doing ACTUAL work. I speak 4 languages. does that make your harvard law degree better than ME? nope. does it not...nope either.
just check yourself is all im saying. because unless you are actually doing the hiring, you arent saying sh*t!
wtf dude? Who's talking about people being BETTER than other people?
One school is better than the other because it has more opportunities upon graduation. A HYS grad can walk out at the bottom of the class and still get biglaw while a Cooley student has trouble doing that same thing from the top 10%.
Thus, a better degree is a BETTER INVESTMENT.
Combine that with the fact that it's tougher to get into better schools (better numbers required, which require more work and intelligence), and it can be reasonably asserted that smarter people go to better schools.
People can do what they want and make their own choices. If someone can't do any better than Cooley, it doesn't make them "garbage" as you like to say, it makes them poor decision makers. The same way someone who spends $150k on a lottery ticket with a 10% chance of winning is a poor decision maker.
Also, I promise you billing 2400 hours in biglaw is not easy. It sucks. The only difference is that we get compensated highly for the work. On top of that, we get the recognition of working on M&As and such that matter and are highly publicized.
I don't understand why you think you're better than people because you didn't do as well in life and "can speak 4 languages." I speak 3, worked my butt off in UG, got a great Fulbright scholarship in a competitive country, etc. Yet I don't think I'm better than anyone, I just applied myself.