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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Realistic free time during 1L
« on: June 24, 2008, 01:22:14 AM »
I had a relatively time-consuming hobby/job second semester (along the lines of what you're considering), and I handled it fine.  Time management is key. :)  Not saying I didn't get exhausted or stressed, but I don't believe it affected my grades.  I've been doing it seven years, and I just couldn't bring myself to quit!  Of course, now I think I am actually going to have to quit this year, due to the course load I want to take, along with some other factors.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: My take on the first year of law school
« on: June 23, 2008, 12:31:47 AM »

Don't get me wrong, I agree that you shouldn't rely on someone else's outline 100%. I still probably spent about 10-12 hours adding and modifying things. I think it would take me longer than 20 hours to make my own - I'm just slow when it comes to things like that, so using someone else's really did save a ton of time. For me using an old outline freed up time for practice exams, which is where the "analysis process" is really honed IMO.

Agree 100% with this.  The times I did attempt to make my own outline it was SO time-consuming and really pretty worthless.  I was much better off reworking existing outlines.

I had one class in which laptops were banned, and I was able to stay really engaged.  This is making me think about trying to go laptop free in the fall.  But then again, I had a really good old outline for the class, so all I needed my crappily scribbled notes for was filling in the gaps.  Maybe it would be a bad idea to handwrite notes if I needed to depend on my own notes more?

Dunno.  Maybe I'll just keep using my computer but turn off my wireless connection.

Does GULC provide you with info on this?  My school gives us a list of the GPA info for students for the past 5 or so years who have gotten offers from each firm in each city.  Maybe ask your career services?

OK, Michigan troll Pt. 2.  Pikey and I are a tag team.

My husband and I were dual-income, living in DC.  So when I considered going to law school, we immediately liked the idea of going to a college town, some place where the reduction in income would be less painful.  My husband's company allows him to telecommute, so location wasn't an issue in that respect.  I threw Harvard in as a reach and then later Columbia when I found out about its housing.  Reject and waitlist respectively (though I later found out Columbia's housing wouldn't have worked for us anyway).  Other than that, Michigan, UVA, and Duke were my top choices from the beginning.  Oh, and I applied to Georgetown PT in case our house didn't sell and I had had to keep working.

So, I got similar merit scholarship offers from all three of those, with a bit larger scholarship at Duke and in-state tuition at UVA (so UVA would have been cheapest, then Duke, then Michigan).  I visited Duke as an individual and Michigan and UVA during ASWs.  My Duke visit was first, and I really enjoyed it.  I'm sure I would have been happy there. The people were nice, the JD/LLM in international law really intrigued me, and North Carolina is a great place to live.

Next, I went to Michigan's ASW (with pikey, etc.) and fell absolutely in love.  I got the chance to meet tons of current students and loved the diverse perspectives and experiences they brought.  They really put on a great program with lots of panels and opportunities to meet people.  I felt that everything I wanted from the JD/LLM at Duke I could get out of Michigan, even if I had to figure out my own path a bit more (like finding my own summer job in Europe, which normally Duke arranges for you to do the second half of your summer after the mandatory summer institute you do as part of the JD/LLM).

I tried hard to go to UVA's ASW with an open mind, but it was really hard, because I was so high on Michigan.  And it didn't help that we had oddly beautiful weather in Ann Arbor and then a couple weeks later freezing rain in Charlottesville.  Plus I had a cold and stomach unpleasantness at the same time at UVA.  That aside, I just didn't feel the same connection with people at UVA.  They seemed a bit more homogenous to me.  And as gorgeous as UVA's facility is, I think that being from the south and having gone to a large southern university made it seem like more of the same, whereas Michigan's gothic style felt truly special.

So in the end, once I had picked out a few top choices based on "logical" factors... great job prospects, lower cost of living... it was a choice of the heart.

I really enjoyed 1L (OK, definitely not every minute of it), and I'm happy with my choice.  Call me crazy, but I love law school!

Incoming 1Ls / Re: How to identify who to get outlines from?
« on: June 18, 2008, 01:04:11 AM »
I got a lot of outlines from upperclassmen I knew.  Friends, FYI leaders (our school has three upperclassmen assigned to each mini-section), from student organizations, etc.  Vap is right... there are a lot of outlines that get passed down from year to year.

Personally, I generally find making my own outlines from scratch too time-consuming. Instead, I like to take a good outline and make it my own.  By combing through it thoroughly, adding, changing, and verifying the accuracy of things, I know the outline as well as I would have if I had made it from scratch.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Visiting law schools
« on: June 18, 2008, 12:54:12 AM »
I waited until after acceptance and visited the three schools I was most interested in, two during the ASW and one on an individual visit.  Either way is a great way to go, but it makes it hard to compare a school you've seen on an ASW to one that you visited on a normal day.  With ASW, there are tons of activities, and you get to meet tons of profs and students and go to panel discussions, etc., but it's a marketing event.  On an individual visit, it's more "real," but you really have to make an effort to ask them to set you up with particular profs or a particular type of student (similar interests or life situation to yours) to help you get a feel for the school.

I usually just read them and thought about them a little.  It depends on the prof, though... is she likely to ask you those questions outright?  Does she not care in the slightest what the author of the casebook thinks about anything and is using it for the actual case opinions only?

I personally think a few lines of case notes is the way to go, but I still prepared differently for classes, again, according to the prof.  This mainly had to do with how closely I read and whether I could do a whole week's reading over the weekend to be ahead of the game or whether I really needed to wait until the night before, to keep details fresh in my mind.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: How many students get A's
« on: June 14, 2008, 05:43:50 AM »
Here are Michigan's grading guidelines:

This is actually really helpful...25% getting A+ to A-. That's not so bad. My guess is that my school is similar to this curve. Thanks.

Your school might have even more A+ to A- grades, since you have a higher curve.  Ours is 3.19. 

I was having a major problem with Word 2004 crashing my machine.  Then during finals I upgraded to 2008 because I had a final I needed to use it for and hoped that the upgrade would help my problem.  The final went fine, but I did have it crash at least once at another time.  No problems since then, but I don't use it for extended periods now that school is over.  So we'll see how it is this fall.

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