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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Realistic free time during 1L
« on: June 25, 2008, 10:53:27 AM »
Quote from: Absolutely Delicious? on Yesterday at 07:32:59 AM
can we give more specific advice than "time management"?  what was a typical day like?


I started to answer this yesterday, but I stopped bc it was too hard to say what a typical day is!  My days and my weeks varied too much because of due dates and activities and commitments to my hobby/job and how close we were to finals.

But in terms of time management, I will say that I obsessively use iCal (similar to Outlook's calendar) to schedule my days, including my reading/studying time, during the school year.  It helped me have a handle on everything I needed to do and even made things seem more manageable when I had them mapped out that way.  And I always had evening downtime on my schedule, for at least an hour (usually more) before bed!

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Realistic free time during 1L
« on: June 25, 2008, 10:49:50 AM »
can we give more specific advice than "time management"?  what was a typical day like?

I started to answer this yesterday, but I stopped bc it was too hard to say what a typical day is!  My days and my weeks varied too much because of due dates and activities and commitments to my hobby/job and how close we were to finals.

But in terms of time management, I will say that I obsessively use iCal (similar to Outlook's calendar) to schedule my days, including my reading/studying time, during the school year.  It helped me have a handle on everything I needed to do and even made things seem more manageable when I had them mapped out that way.  And I always had evening downtime on my schedule, for at least an hour (usually more) before bed! :)

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2L job search / Re: below-curve hls 2L re: oci prospects
« on: June 25, 2008, 09:42:45 AM »
What, you're not applying to Atlanta, either? :(  You two are the only 2010 LSDers I know with strong Atlanta ties.

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Is there more to cases than identifying the rule?


Yes, because there often is no "rule."  The next case in your book will often have extremely similar facts but a different outcome.  It's more important, in my opinion, to understand the reasoning each judge used.  And then on your exam if you have a similar hypothetical, you can talk about both of those approaches and why one is superior than the other in this case.

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2L job search / Re: below-curve hls 2L re: oci prospects
« on: June 25, 2008, 05:25:17 AM »
DC is (in my opinion) much tougher.  Unless of course you go to school here in which case slightly different story.

Your opinion is reflective of the situation as I gather, too. 

Yeah, that's what I gather too.  It sounds like a lot of the most ambitious people want to go to DC.  NY, on the other hand, has tons of jobs in firms with a wide range of GPA requirements/desires.  A lot of people see NY as the easiest major market to get a job in for a below average student.

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And I stopped studying and did something relaxing by 8 pm at the latest the night before every exam! Sleep and calm are important!


Definitely!!!

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2L job search / Re: below-curve hls 2L re: oci prospects
« on: June 24, 2008, 11:00:45 AM »
You should totally try Atlanta. :)

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Ugh . . . they let you in because you scored as well on your LSAT.  Law school admissions aren't exactly holistic, even at Michigan.  They didn't consult the Oracle at Delphi in order to find out which people are best suited for the legal profession.


Of course not, but even in a numbers game, their numbers were comparable to get in.  I hate seeing very smart people from less privileged backgrounds be intimidated to the point of psyching themselves out about competing against people who went to Harvard.

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What I have to say is only marginally related, but I think this is an interesting discussion that I haven't really seen anyone have on a message board before.  Coming from the south, in a state where most people stay in state and go to public universities (partly because of the killer deal kids who maintain B averages have on tuition there), and even after several years in the working world outside the south, 1L year at Michigan was the first time in my life I had met and become friends with people who had gone to places like Harvard or Stanford or Dartmouth.  I think the mix is really good at Michigan... you meet people who went to undergrad everywhere, and I've never heard anyone say a single snobby thing about it... but that said, I defintely know people who feel very intimidated by the pedigrees of others.

Personally, I have confidence in my abilities and am not embarrassed by having only ever gone to public schools (though I admit to shallowly wishing my law school [which I love] had more lay prestige!).  But I feel really frustrated and sad for my friends who truly doubt themselves because of their backgrounds.  So I would say to anyone who is worried about competing against kids from the fancy undergrads:  Look, they let you in!  They evaluated your qualifications and picked you as someone who would represent the law school well in the legal profession.  And they thought you had something to contribute to the community of the law school.  Law school is a new experience and a challenge to everyone, no matter his or her background.


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Sounds like a lot of great advice. It's similar to my general plan going in, as it's how I approached philosophy in undergrad, so I'm happy to see somebody having success.

One of my worries is all this talk of books. Is this something that 1Ls figure out really quickly? I just see all those titles and automatically go into a daze.

If my plan is to get an overview of the case (take some basic notes), read the case (more basic notes), and then outline what I need to take away from the case, which books are the best for this?


This sounds way too in-depth and time-consuming at the case level.  And you wouldn't really use a book other than your assigned case book for the cases.  Study aids are typically more for concepts, not cases.  The exception would be if you want a shortcut and don't want to read the case at all, in which "canned" briefs can be useful.  Here's an example: http://www.amazon.com/Casenote-Legal-Briefs-Schwartz-Partlett/dp/0735559570/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214295768&sr=8-1


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