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Current Law Students / Re: 0L Question
« on: June 09, 2009, 05:35:34 PM »
Now, I'd like to say I'm going to law school to make the world a better place, but mostly I'm going to find a good job and make good money.

Dude... you're so heading into the wrong field. Depending on your grades & LSAT score, if you get into a top school (T-14), then you'll do fine... but if you're outside the top 50 schools, you've got less than a 50/50 chance of 'making good money' in comparison to the debt you'll incur. You want to make the world a better place and make good money with a good job? Go to phramacy school... average starting salary of over $100k and no stupid Shakespearean quotes about 'killing all the pharmacists'...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Location versus debt
« on: June 07, 2009, 08:42:05 AM »
**OP - this is applicable to you, but not directed specifically at you.**

[rant] I'm always stunned by the amount of people that ask advice about which scholly offer to accept without providing the maintenance details of the scholly. Without that information, how can anyone begin to offer any insight? A free ride that requires top 25% standing to maintain is worth a hell of a lot less than a 1/2 tuition that only calls for 'good standing' (generally understood to be a 2.0 GPA). If a person wants to ask for advice, include that little important detail. [/rant]

So OP, in response to your question about what school to attend, what are the maintenance requirements for your 2 scholly offers? Anything less than a 50% likelihood of maintaining, and I'd disregard it... AdComm's play the game of throwing buckets of scholly money because they know how many people lose it after the first year.

Current Law Students / Re: Awful 1L year
« on: June 06, 2009, 11:52:56 PM »
Bad news is that BIGLaw is virtually guaranteed to not be an option. Heck, if you're at a T2, chances are that regular OCI won't be an option for you. However, the good news is that those aren't the only ways that law students get jobs. They may be the most traditional ways and the ways most likely to bring in big money, but they certainly aren't hte only ways. As Gonzo indicated, you're going to have to work to make up for your grades... and when I say work, I don't mean just pull up your grades, I mean network and other activities that will get your name noticed. Attend guest speakers, alumni functions, club meetings, local bar meetings, etc.... In short, you won't be following the 'easy' path to post graduation employment, but that doesn't mean you're going to be stuck busing tables at TGIFridays. You'll just have to put in more effort
Good luck,

Incoming 1Ls / Re: LSAT score and LS performance
« on: June 04, 2009, 02:06:53 PM »
The LSAT is not a 'good' predictor of law school success... but it the best one that AdComms have available to them. That doesn't make it 'good'... if a low LSAT score is due to a problem with standardized tests, then it is a really poor indicator of a student's capability. If, however, the low score is because of a failure to put in effort in preparation, it's a surprisingly good indicator of capability. For those students that fall into neither of those categories, then it's important to understand why the student recieved the score they did... lack of natural capacity? Language barrier? Poor reading skills? Inability to make logical connections? Some other reason?
In short, if you can figure out why you got the score you did, that will give you a better understanding of how well the LSAT score will compare with law school success.
Good Luck,

PS: One girl in my 1LE class was a probational admit with a comparable LSAT score to yours (far below what SJU looks for). However, when given the chance to perform, she excelled - pulling nearly an A- average 1st semester and eventually being invited to join the Moot Court Honor Society. Like I said, the LSAT is not a 'good' indicator of probable law school success, only the best one that AdComm's have available for their use.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Missing School!!!
« on: June 04, 2009, 01:59:22 PM »
Enjoy it while you can because you will never have time like that again. You'll probably look for an internship your first summer so you can put it on your resume for OCI, whiich will land you your second sumemr job, which will lead to your post graduation position.
Of course, that's how it goes *hopefully*... but the point is that there's no more 'free summers' after this.

Job Search / Starting salaries @ State AG offices?
« on: June 03, 2009, 08:15:07 PM »
Does anyone know what the starting salary is like for a NY Ass't Attorney General? Is that information publicly available someplace?

Really kinda hard to compare when you're talking about schools that close. BLS talks up their alumni network, so I'll take that at face value about job placement. As for SJU, it was a SJU alum that made the connections for me to land my internship at the NY AG's office for this summer... so I can attest to the value of SJU's alumni network. But at the afternoon orientation session yesterday, there were probably twice as many BLS students as SJU (6-3), so who knows?
Good luck.

I wasn't ignoring, I just didn't address that part. If a student works hard, studies, and participates in class, its very hard not to do well. It's only when one doesn't try his hardest, and then you only have yourself to blame. I'm sure there are the slim exceptions, but given the 3.0-3.2 curve at Hofstra, it should not be too difficult to stay above average. Also, scholarships are evaluated yearly, so if you mess up in a class first semester, you can bring up your gpa second semester. And if anything, making sure you keep your scholarship will motivate you.
You're trying to tell the OP that it's not that hard to stay in the top 1/3rd at Hofstra? So 2/3rds of the students are slackers that don't study or participate in class? You're painting with a pretty broad brush there... I'm guessing that most of the scholarship recipients think they're going to keep it, and the sad truth is that schools offer so many scholly's because they know that many people will lose them, freeing up the money to be offered to someone else next admission cycle.
Again OP... see if SJU will beat the scholly offered by BLS, or if you want the free ride @ Hofstra, get them to change the requirements to maintain it. As it stands, you're 2/3rds chance of losing it makes it the least attractive of the 3 options... b/c until you've actually taken some law school exams and gotten grades back, you really have no way of knowing what your grades are really going to be like. If you're going to lose a scholly and ppay full price for the remaining 2 years of your JD, might as well buy the best one you can...
Good luck,

Don't bother switching... your undergrad major has little bearing on your admission to law school. In fact, having a non Poli-Sci/Pre-Law degree probably increases your admission chances simply because it makes you stand out as something different whent he school is trying to admit a 'diverse' student body. It won't make up for a lower LSAT or GPA, but when deciding whether to make the offer to you or to someone with the exact same GPA and LSAT as you, it's a difference that they'll consider in your favor...
Good luck,

So you have a better than 2/3rds chance of losing the scholly at Hofstra and yet you're questioning whether you should accept the offer from BLS, a better schooly with more generous scholly retention requirements? Of the 3 you've been accepted to, the order is pretty clearly BLS/SJU/Hofstra... with Hofstra being pretty much limited to work on Long Island. You could probably get SJU to match or even beat the scholly offer from BLS, but you're looking at top 1/2 to maintain it. Still, that's better than the top 1/3rd that Hofstra requires. 
BLS places significantly better than Hofstra unless you're only looking at working on Long Island. As for Hofstra, the only Hofstra students I know are the ones that transfered to SJU after their first year. Perhaps if you approach the Hofstra admission office with your other scholly offers they can change the conditions to keep it from a 3.25 GPA to something like 'good standing' (which @ SJU is merely a 2.00... I presume that it's similar at Hofstra)
Good luck...

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