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Current Law Students / Re: In Class Note Taking: What do you use?
« on: June 27, 2009, 04:39:15 AM »
After 2 years of law school I've found that plain ol' Word documents work well enough for me. It seems like you're probably best off using what you're most comfortable with. One Note sounds like it does have some pretty nifty features though... but nobody grades your notes or outlines based on the formatting, so go with what you know.

Job Search / Re: Summer abroad or work/externship?
« on: June 20, 2009, 02:34:44 PM »
Ask yourself this simple question... when going for that interview against many other similarly situated candidates, what's going to make you more interesting to the interviewer... that you actually attained some practial experience doing legal work or that you took a few classes while enjoying a european vacation?
While that sounds a little harsh, just remember how rough the job market is right now. Any plus you can get over other candidates is something that will make you more interesting to the firm, so what gives you that plus? I'd say it's the 'real legal experience' as opposed to the 'academic opportunity'.
Of course, in theory the reason people go to school is to obtain an education, so if your first focus is on being a well-developed student, then go with the study abroad.
Good luck,

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Misdemeanor - Expunged question???
« on: June 19, 2009, 03:48:12 PM »
In 2005 I had a larceny misdemeanor.  Since then, it has been expunged from my record.  I was advised by my attorney to never list that I had ever been charged with a crime because it would never show up.  I have been accepted to law school and will be starting in the fall.  At an open house the dean said that if anyone had been charged with anything, expunged or not, that they needed to let him know.  He said that it would show up when time to take the bar and that if it wasn't on record with the law school then it was a problem.  I guess I have 3 questions.  1 - Should I report it to the dean even though it has been expunged?  2 - can they take back my acceptance to the school?  and 3 - will this cause me problems with being able to take the bar or practice law?  Thanks guys!

1. Yes, you always report.  If in doubt, report or ask.  The dean told you explicitly to report whether expunged or not.

2. I doubt they would rescind the acceptance, but you should report it ASAP so as not to look like you were purposely lying.

3. If it's a misdemeanor in the past and you haven't been in any trouble since then, you'll probably be OK with the bar.  Check on the website of the state in which you'd like to practice.  They should have information there regarding eligibility for the bar.


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: HOFSTRA OR SUNY BUFFALO???
« on: June 19, 2009, 03:46:26 PM »
Since the job outlook isn't that great from either school, why would you want to pay full private school tuition for Hofstra when you can pay full public school tuition at Buffalo? I'm not familiar w/ Buffalo, but I am w/ Hofstra... if you don't want to work on Long Island, and you're determined to work in NYC, then you're going to have to be at the top of your class regardless of which school you attend. Might as well save on the tuition since Hofstra doesn't grant any significant advantage in achieving your stated goals.

PS: If you were willing to work on LI, then of course Hofstra would have much better local connections, but those connections don't reach very far outside of LI.

Going PT while working FT is doable at schools that offer such programs, but don't think it will be easy. General estimates are 2-3 hours of out-of-class prep for every hour of in-class lecture... so those 10-11 credits of courses each semester are going to cost you 22-33 hours of study time. My schedule is that I open and close the library on both Saturday and Sunday (11 hours each day/22 total), put in about an hour each day during lunch (5 total), and then squeeze in some reading during slow parts of the work day or in the library after class.
It's pretty demanding, but it is possible... and it is possible to do well if you're determined. I'd be in the top 1/3rd of my class if PT students were ranked w/ the FT ones... not top 10% or anything fancy, but better than 2/3rds of the other students that don't have to work for a living.
Good luck,

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Seton Hall vs. Hofstra $$
« on: June 15, 2009, 07:02:04 PM »
Ok linquest,I'll defer... although my statement about Hofstra's L&EL journal was simply regurgitating something that stuck out in my mind from a list I saw ranking various law school journals, not intended on advocating that Hofstra has great placement in the L&EL field. Having read a volume of their journal, it seemed no better or worse than any other journal I've looked through, but because of my strong interest in the subject matter perhaps I give them too much credit.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Seton Hall vs. Hofstra $$
« on: June 14, 2009, 05:55:50 AM »
Well, some Hofstra grads do go on to better things - NY's Govenor Patterson is a Hofstra grad. Hofstra isn't a 'bad' school if you're interested in being an attorney on Long Island - but the OP clearly indicated that he's interested only in working in NYC, which limit's Hofstra's appeal. Similarly, Hofstra has had some good faculty - one of St. John's best Contracts professors was formerly at Hofstra.
So while Hofstra isn't the right choice for the OP, for it's clearly defined role (as law school for Long Island lawyers) it does an adequate job.

PS: Hofstra does have at least one area that it excels in - it's Labor & Employment law journal is well regarded in the field of (obviously) Labor & Employment law. Not saying it's worth going there just for that, but it's at least 1 good thing I can think of about Hofstra...

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Seton Hall vs. Hofstra $$
« on: June 12, 2009, 03:19:00 PM »
Hofstra is the 'Long Island law school' (sorry Touro), so if you have no interest in working on LI, go with SH. Sure, top 10-15% of Hofstra grads may be able to work in NYC, but that's an 85% chance of NOT working in your target market. Besides, the GPA requirement to keep the scholly money at Hofstra means roughly top 1/3rd of the class... so if you only wind up in the top half of your class, you are shitouttaluck on both the scholarship money and working in your target market.
Go with SH - much better chances of working where you want to work.
Good luck,

Current Law Students / Re: I HATE MY SITUATION!!!
« on: June 12, 2009, 03:11:00 PM »
If you're so unhappy, why don't you transfer back to your T4 school for your 3rd year? I'd imagine that they'd take you back...

Current Law Students / Re: When should I get married?
« on: June 11, 2009, 04:27:14 PM »
Here's thinking like a lawyer... if you're awarded your degree after you get married, then it's treated as a marital asset subject division should you have any 'marital difficulties'. Nobody likes to think about that possibility before they get married, but there is a 50% divorce rate here. So when should you get married? AFTER you've earned your JD. Then it would be considered personal property that you're bringing into the marriage and its value not counted toward the marital assets that would be up for division.
Good luck,

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