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Actually, that doesn't sounds like that bad of a schedule... 5 nites a week, 10 credits for the semester? At least you'll have time after class to hit the library for a few hours each night to do some reading.
Assuming that I'm correct on the credit count, figure 2-3 hours of study for each hour of class means you'll need to put in 20-30 hours of study-time each week outside of class. Taking 2 hours each evening in the library after class(M-F) gets you 10 hours during the week if you only stay until 9:30. That means you only have to put in 10-20 hours each weekend.
What's a day in the life look like? Well, my experience while working FT 8-5 had me in class 4 nights a week (generally between 6:30 and 10). Reading during lunch gave me 5 hours of study time each week, opening and closing the library on both Sat and Sunday gave me another 22 hours, and then usually one weeknight class would either start late or finish early and give me another 2 hours to read. A day in the life of a PT law student that works FT means not having time for anything outside of work/class/study/sleep... and the sleep part tends to get crunched a bit. It also means that some of the people you're competing against for grades may (will) have a time advantage because they work less hours (or don't work at all). That's where you're really going to see the toughest competition.
The one bright spot is that as time goes by, you get faster at doing the reading, you learn to take shortcuts regarding briefing, and you get better at balancing your time. The work doesn't get any easier, but because you've developed the tools to compensate, the burden isn't as oppressive.
Good luck...

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Dont waste your money get it thru Westlaw/Lexis access.

I do have some advice for incoming law students, and maybe its too late for you already decided first years, but if you can afford it the summer before law school starts take a bar review course.  That's right kids--a bar review course!  The bar focuses largely on first year topics and the knowledge you will gain will be immeasurable. You will have advance knowledge of the subject matter; you will learn to answer questions, you will learn to write and you will benefit from the critiques. It will place you ahead of the pack from the start and kids that where you want to be. 

It will be hard and it will be costly, but it will be worth it.

Best wishes

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TINTCR -1.

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General Board / Re: Exam in 2 weeks - Hitting a wall.
« on: August 04, 2009, 11:09:56 PM »
So I have finals in two weeks.  I finished my reading a week ago, and I've been reviewing since then.  My productivity has dropped insanely...the lack of a clear, concise direction to go in is making me feel like I'm wasting a lot of time.  I'm guessing this is normal, and where learning to study efficiently comes in (I've never studied at all until law school, so I'm horribly inexperienced).  Should I focus on multiple choice, bar-review style books for the next week or so?  I've worked through most of the available essays in the exam bank, and want to leave myself at least a couple for the final week.

Thoughts?

Edit:  Again, I realize I have a tendency to create these needy, solicitous posts.  I'll try not to do that after this, my first term; I just want to take every opportunity at this point to gain input from more experienced parties. 

Thanks again!


What's the topic? What's the format for the teacher's past exams? Strategy for a closed book multiple choice Contracts exam is a heck of a lot different than an open book issue-spotting Torts exam. Have you actually sat down and done old exams by your teacher under timed circumstances? Have you reviewed not only your own outline, but outlines from other students that have had this teacher? Do you know the BLL of the subject cold and how to apply it? These are all things to consider in preparing for your exam...

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General Board / Re: Critique my brief
« on: July 30, 2009, 07:50:55 AM »
Not at the beginning of 1L... writing out actual briefs helps you develop the ability to pick out what's really important in the case. Once you've done it enough times (and for some students, enough times can mean after 3-4 weeks of class) then by all means book brief... but for a brand new 1L, there's value in writing out actual briefs.

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The soft cover pocket version is sufficient and easier to flip through than searching a digital one. However, I wouldn't waste the money on the large hardcover one...

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General Board / Re: Critique my brief
« on: July 29, 2009, 10:22:22 PM »
1 little tip to add to Susan's excellent suggestion: add a single sentance at the bottom of the brief to explain why that case is in the book. Demonstrate an exception to a general principle? Illustrate an element of negligence? Demonstrate a defense? Explanation of pre-emption? Whatever the reason is, figure out why the editor included that case in the textbook and in plain and simple language give that to yourself at the very bottom of your brief. That way, when preparing your outlines for finals you can easily see what role that case plays.
If you keep in mind the questions: (1) why is this case included; and (2) what is the rule going forward from this case, you'll be able to really understand what the cases are there to teach and you won't get bogged down by the details.
Good luck!

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General Board / Re: The crock that is the law school scholarship
« on: July 29, 2009, 10:13:44 PM »
Cut TC some slack here... maybe once he's actually attended some law school classes he'll put together a better argument. If not, then hopefully he'll at least not completely derail future threads about the way law schools award intial and continuing scholarships with off topic arguments about the merits of capitalism over socialism.

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General Board / Re: The crock that is the law school scholarship
« on: July 28, 2009, 09:47:35 PM »
I think the more accurate label would be to call it a testmanship.  In short, law schools dole out ridiculous full paid scholarships to someone who performs well on a four hour LSAT.  However, someone works hard throughout their first year, does really well, only gets an offered peanuts.  Of course, this is just my experience, but it just doesn't seem fair.  They hand out several small scholarships to help statistics.  Kind of reminds me of the NFL draft pick salaries being more than proven veterans. 

Just remember why scholarships are being given in the first place... all those admit scholly's are given to buy grades/scores for ranking purposes and to draw students that may have the best potential to one day be wealthy & generous alumni. The scholly's given after 1st year grades are in are only given to those that didn't merit a scholly in the first place but have demonstrated the potential to one day be wealthy & generous alumni. It's all about what the school gets for their money... and they get alot more bang for their buck when those bucks are spent on drawing in new students rather than giving money to those they already have.

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General Board / Re: Question for 2l and 3L
« on: July 28, 2009, 09:42:56 PM »
The only issue with buying used & marked-up textbooks is trying to figure out whether the previous owner sold the books back after he joined law review or sold them back after he failed out... big difference on who's previous highlighting you want to look at.

 

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General Board / Re: Evidence supplemental reading suggestions?
« on: July 24, 2009, 12:35:35 AM »
We used the LexisNexis book "Federal Rules of Evidence: Rules, Legislative History, Commentary and Authority" by Glen Weissenberger and James J. Duane as our main textbook, but I found that it was written almost like supplement. It breaks down each specific subsection of each rule and I found it to be pretty clear. Although I can't imagine learning Evidence from a casebook, I think this would be a great supplement to any evidence class...

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