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First Practice - 145
Highest Practice - 162
September LSAT - 156

OMG- so weird.  I had:

First LSAT 146 (oops- only studied like a week before- I'm an idiot I know)
Highest practice 162
Sept. LSAT 156

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Retake? i think it makes sense
« on: October 23, 2006, 04:43:33 PM » must be twin.  Same score, same opinion.  I completely agree, but am hoping to improve for scholarship reasons.  So I am wondering if its worth it to delay my apps?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: If you did not get your score-check now
« on: October 23, 2006, 04:42:17 PM »
Pretty much just that!!!  I felt like a looney tune.

Studying for the LSAT / Who's retaking?
« on: October 23, 2006, 04:41:22 PM »
Just got my score, 5 points lower than my last practice and 4 lower than what I hoped for (RC was always my worst section, so with this super tough one, now even more so!).  I'm thinking of retaking for scholarship reasons...Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this?  Who is retaking because the RC was harder than usual?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: If you did not get your score-check now
« on: October 23, 2006, 04:38:59 PM »
I'm so glad you told me this, earlier too!  I finally got mine and I am so happy I did- sorta...happy I got it, but a little less than thrilled with the score.  Got a 156- missed 10 on RC!  Brutal...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Disclosure of Writing Sample Score
« on: October 23, 2006, 02:57:39 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if your LSAT instructor teaches GMAT verbal, too. The GMAT's writing sample is scored 1-6 (I believe the only way to get a zero is if you give no response to the prompt!), and you get your writing sample score with your formal GMAT results.

Just to also point out that your instructor is probably not someone who was an LSAT instructor first who then also happens to teach GMAT or GRE (the GRE essays are also scored), but for your instructor to make such a mistake, it is more likely that he/she is a GMAT or GRE instructor who they made into an LSAT instructor.  There is even a good chance your teacher never took the Real LSAT if he/she actually said this in class.  Anybody who has sat for the actual exam would know that the essay is unscored.  This is one of the problems with some of the larger companies (read Kaplan and Princeton Review) is that they do not require their instructors to have ever taken
the LSAT to be an LSAT instructor.

I took the Kaplan course, to be an LSAT instructor you must score in the 90th percentile on the test.  They make the instructors take their course also, and then re-take the test again.  Not sure about Princeton...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: List of schools that don't average
« on: October 23, 2006, 02:50:27 PM »
OK GUYS!  I actually spoke with the assistant dean of admissions at Cleveland Marshall law.  I had applied last year and been denied, so they let you basically ask why (bad previous score, dont ask!).  Anyways, she told me that the first thing they look at is you index.  You can find a list of the index formulas on the LSAT account, I think under reports and Letters?  Can't remember exactly, but anyways...they usually look at that first, then go from there.  They will use the highest or the average- whichever they accept to calculate the index.  Then they start the objective things like essays and LOR, etc.  They see everything of course, but basically she said they first take into account the average.  For instance, they wanted about a 3.0 and I was a 2.8 roughly, so no go.  Now I'm not saying all schools do this- but this may give you some insight.  She told me what score I needed, and even what score would put me into scholarship range.  They take everything, even prior scores, into consideration, but basically the sad fact is that most, not all, but most decisions are highly number games.  Hope this helps!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: does there anyone not get his/her score
« on: October 23, 2006, 02:29:39 PM »
Oh I am so glad you said that.  It gives me such hope!  I called once again- 3rd time today, not including the 4 calls Friday! And finally "Brian" told me that they had been having a problem with some scores and that they could not even access them.  He then said (and a rep told me this friday too actually) that it takes 24 hours after that for them to show up on our online accounts.  He told me I could try telescore later, but it sounded like he thought it was unlikely.  Oh I pray that I get it later tonight- did they happen to give you a time?  Also, and I know this is a long shot, but since they said "problems with some scores" I wonder if somehow they meant a particular score?  It seems unlikely, but hey I'm grasping at straws I am wondering, if you'd be willing to share, what score were you aiming for?  Maybe we got the same one!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: please don't be offended but for real...
« on: October 23, 2006, 01:42:20 PM »
I dont know what to say about all of this- but I had a 3.71 gpa (cum. from 2 schools and 2 transient classes at yet another school) and managed a 146 on my first LSAT last year.  I only blame myself however, I did not study nearly enough, specifically only for roughly a week because I just figured it would be like all standardized tests which I always did excellent on.  Obviously I was wrong!  The LSAT tests things that arent specifically taught in class.  I am still waiting for my score (oh lets just not discuss that one, its upsetting enough thinking about it), but my last practice was a 162. 

So basically, what I am saying is that GPA and LSAT are not really related.  And the LSAT teaches abstract concepts, which with practice, one can dramatically change their score.  A lot of it depends on the time you have to put into it.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: does there anyone not get his/her score
« on: October 23, 2006, 01:35:39 PM »
Yeah not me.  I called and asked why- they said they just put it in today and so it wont even show up until tom!  They said I cant even try telescore because that wont be up either!

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