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Canadian Law Students / ..
« on: April 16, 2007, 04:11:37 PM »
Canadians scoring highly on the LSAT do not necessarily wish to go to Toronto. Canadian schools tend to be more regional as a whole than top US law schools. I did not even consider applying to law school in Toronto, for example. (I did not apply to any Canadian schols, but if I had, it would have been to UVic and UBC.)

I would also believe that Canadians scoring highly on the LSAT are more likely to attend top American law schools, further reducing the pool of 170+ applicants to schools like Toronto.

I doubt assertions that Canadians as a whole are not as good at standardized tests as Americans, merely due to the lack of an SAT or ACT to enter into undergrad.

Can I ask why you want to go to school in the U.S.? Are you planning to practice there and if so how are you going to deal with the immigration issue?

Canadian Law Students / Re: Lower LSAT scores in Canadian Law schools
« on: April 16, 2007, 04:02:37 PM »
Actually, yes, it probably is. Canadian schools are pretty regional. UT or McGill can get you a job in New York City, but the oppurtunities they offer aren't as great as a T10 US school, which a 170+ gets you into. There really isn't anoter explanation for why UT has lower LSAT scores. On a whole, given Canada's better education system, one would expect Canadians get average higher scores.

Did you read the thread? I guess Canadian schools are "regional" if you consider all of Canada a "region." We don't have standardized testing here. We haven't been prepped from grade nine for the SATs. There is a much smaller pool of applicants leading to less people at the top to fill the class.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Help for June
« on: April 16, 2007, 10:44:05 AM »
If you can't take the test with an analogue watch I suggest you find another profession.

Canadian Law Students / Re: Lower LSAT scores in Canadian Law schools
« on: April 16, 2007, 10:42:05 AM »
Or how about that most Canadians who are scoring 170+ are probably applying (and attending) schools in the US.

That isn't true at all.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: where is LizPendens?
« on: April 14, 2007, 05:32:02 PM »
im not "trying" anything

such are the facts of life

Studying for the LSAT / Re: where is LizPendens?
« on: April 14, 2007, 03:26:45 PM »
maybe she actually got a life

oh wait there she is guess notr

Canadian Law Students / Re: Why should I go to an American school?
« on: April 14, 2007, 03:23:12 PM »
If you want to practice in Canada go to a canadian school. If you want to practice in the U.S. go to an american school. Comparing them on "flexibility" is ridiculous. You can't just walk into canada with a JD and take the bar exam. It doesn't work like that. You have to do at least a year at a canadian school anyway and a year of articling. Not too mention the host of immigration issues you have to go through if you want to spend any amount of time in either country.

I don't know about those bar passage numbers - for one thing UofT is the only school in canada that gives a JD and not an LLB. So I would assume the numbers are based mostly on American non-ABA schools. Anyway you are probably right about advancement in new york but that seems to be changing. There has been a huge increase in canadian students going to new york and with that increased presence I wouldn't doubt there will be more canadian educated partners in new york.

Whatever the case its freaking retarded to rank the degrees on "flexibility" they both have massive restrictions why anybody would go to school in a different jurisdiction than where they want to make a career i have no idea.

I saw a girl doing this when I sat and I know others saw her doing it as well. I'm surprised nobody ratted on her. I don't see the point. Get to figure out what the experimental section is maybe? Compared to the massive risk of getting caught and having your law school dreams basically shot down the tube, seems like a pretty stupid thing to do.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Canadian Law Schools, Rankings
« on: April 14, 2007, 12:38:22 PM »
As far as rankings go there isn't as much separation of the schools as in the U.S. The schools are all really good. U of T and McGill are always the standouts on the top but only because they have international reputations. UBC and Uvic seem to be over rated by people outside of Canada. They aren't really above the Ontario schools except for a negligible difference in admission numbers because they can be more selective as they are the only schools in that region and everyone wants to live in vancouver. The flipside of that is that the vancouver market is saturated with students and the pay is lower than Toronto.

Basically ranking Canadian schools is a useless endeavour and employment is based more on grades than what school you come from. For example if you graduate at the top of your class from Manitoba Law which is generally known as the easiest school to get into, you will have a MUCH better chance of finding a job on Bay street than if you were to graduate near the bottom of the class (or even the bottom third) at University of Toronto.

Canadian Law Students / Re: Lower LSAT scores in Canadian Law schools
« on: April 14, 2007, 12:30:43 PM »
U of T also has a median GPA of around 3.8, which is quite impressive considering grade deflation at Canadian universities.  U of T is probably comparable to UCLA, Cornell, or Vandy in selectivity, not schools in the 20s.  The schools in the 20s have medians around 3.6/165-166, but they admit splitters to raise the LSAT score.  At U of T, you aren't getting in with a 2.9/172 the way you will at W&L, WUSTL, or UIUC; there is simply more emphasis on GPA.  I think Berkeley's medians were 3.8/165 2 years ago, Duke's are pretty close to that too.

Keep in mind U of T selects the best three years of school when they make admission decisions. The GPA number is a bit misleading.

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