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Acceptances / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 15, 2007, 05:13:48 AM »

I go to MSU for grad school right now and flat our refused to apply.  I am applying still to Wayne just to give myself options but I will tell you I am flat out unimpressed and completely disinterested with MSU law for more reasons than the flat-out drama llama everyone in it seems to be.

Could you please tell us some of your reasons for being unimpressed and disinterested? Do you have any specific examples?

the program has had little to no efforts made to even interest their own students, let alone retain.  people transfer, as i'm sure they do at other schools, but i know just a lot of people who are extremely unhappy being here.  the overall school has an aura of negativity and arrogance, not just the law, but i know, having gone to univ of michigan for undergrad (with no pretentiousness or whatever because of that rivalry) that i have encountered so much more drama and unhappy people here than anywhere i've visited or places i know people at.

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Acceptances / Re: Loyola New Orleans
« on: March 15, 2007, 05:10:45 AM »
I was accepted there, but not sure if I'm attending. My scholarship $$ came with the first letter...be warned, there will be many, many more letters coming soon. They are working hard to draw students.

damn that sucks.  i guess no money for me.

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Acceptances / Re: Univ of Miami vs. Ave Maria 25K
« on: March 14, 2007, 07:01:29 AM »
I need some advice choosing between Ave Maria with a 25,000 Scholarship per year or University of Miami with no scholarship offer so far. The 500.00 non-refundable deposit for Ave Maria is due on April 1st. Please help!!!

Keep in mind Ave Maria is moving to Florida in 2009. How will this affect the Univ of Miami or do you think it would it be a burden on Ave Maria?

I am from California and would love to come back to California after I graduate. Plus I'm use to the wonderful Cali weather which makes Miami seem nicer...but it's not all abou the weather...that 75,000 over 3 years sounds good. Also, how are the grade curves for both of these schools?

Any advice would be helpful.

Thanks in advance!


I would say Miami - Ave Maria is too transitional and highly religious in education and would more or less make sense to go to if that was your reason for going but if not it might be an offering you're not looking for

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Acceptances / Re: Acceptances 05-06 Cycle
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:50:18 PM »
In at Loyola New Orleans (first to let me know and my No. 1 pick)

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Acceptances / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:48:52 PM »
I think Wayne is better than both Toledo and MSU.  Granted Toledo is ranked higher based on US News, but you probably have to maintain a 3.3. and I heard that over half lose it.  Plus, career prospects are much better in Michigan if you go to Wayne.  The administration is slow, but I know the professors are really good.



I go to MSU for grad school right now and flat our refused to apply.  I am applying still to Wayne just to give myself options but I will tell you I am flat out unimpressed and completely disinterested with MSU law for more reasons than the flat-out drama llama everyone in it seems to be.

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Acceptances / Loyola New Orleans
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:45:48 PM »
Who else is going there in 5 months?

I got my acceptance letter today.  Also, was any sort of scholarship/grant supposed to be in that envelope or is it coming soon in addition?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:32:21 PM »
I am seriously focusing on going to WVU in the fall as it seems I shouldn't have a problem getting in, it has a nice warm climate and it's far from what I have considered home, a personal desire based on needing a change in my life.  However, does anyone have any input on the school as a whole and the surrounding city/area?  I noticed they have a summer term in Brazil which I am interested in but other than that know very little.  Thanks.

WVU?  Nice Warm climate?  I don't know where you're coming from, but Morgantown is up in the mountains and is often much colder and snowier than Pittsburgh (closest big city a little over an hour to the North).  Maybe you're from Canada or something and that's not cold, I don't know.  Not a lot in Morgantown except the WVU undergrad scene.  Pittsburgh can be nice; but that's a bit of a drive.

I'm from Michigan so basically anything around there seems warm.  I'm probably going to Loyola New Orleans though unless WVU just whips money at me

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If you go purely by the U.S. News and Rankings, then choose LSU. However, if you are concerned with factors such as starting salary and job placement, then Loyola would be a better fit. Check the statistics for yourself:

http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/view.php/47

http://www.ilrg.com/rankings/law/view.php/50




LSU for sure.  LSU is a much better school overall.  Ranking wise it is much higher than Loyola, and its bar passage rate is also much better.  I would honestly pick it over Tulane as well, even though Tulane is ranked higher.  So LSU.

I just got accepted to Loyola NO today.  do you have a general "this is what the school's like, the social atmosphere is like this, what to watch for" overview as it was basically my top choice and I'm stoked to be entering

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Tulane - worth the money?
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:29:24 PM »
Can I justify a) the money this is going to cost

Yes.  If you really want to go to law school, then cost should be a secondary concern.  You should be more worried about where you will get the highest quality education.

b) giving up going to higher ranked schools (even though this is the correct geo.)

If you would be unhappy living and studying in a place other than the south, then by all means don't go there.  Just because Tulane is ranked lower in U.S. News than Uni Chicago, Georgetown, etc. does not necessarily make it a worse law school (in terms of quality of education).  I would be very wary of using any rankings as a criteria for choosing a law school.  Tulane is a solid school, and you will get a first-rate education if you go there.

c) how much more money I will spend at bars going to Tulane than I will going somewhere up north?

Just because Tulane is in New Orleans, doesn't mean that you're not going to go through hell trying to make the grade in law school.  I doubt you will have alot of extra time to accumulate a hefty bar tab.

Good luck with your decision.  I got into Tulane too, but I still don't know where I'm going to end up. 

Great response, thanks for your insight! If we both end up at Tulane or at Mardi Gras next year or something I owe you a beer.

Are there any significant hurdles preventing you from signing on Tulane right now, or is it really just a lot of good options and none of them are clearly the best?

I'll probably be at Loyola New Orleans and sadly the bar tab question also popped into my head

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: West Virginia
« on: March 13, 2007, 11:06:22 PM »
are you still going to WVU?

I applied on deadline but have yet to hear anything.  I just got in to Loyola New Orleans so I'm not sure about WVU

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