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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Decisions: UT-A, SC, ND ...
« on: March 20, 2007, 04:45:40 PM »
Where do you want to live? I think that should make the decision for you.

If West coast do USC.
If Midwest do ND.
If South or Southwest do Texas.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: How Important Are LRAP's???
« on: March 19, 2007, 08:12:04 PM »
I haven't been planning on doing govt or public interest work straight out of law school, but you never know... I do want to keep an open mind.  I've been leaning towards DePaul lately - but I am concerned about them not having a LRAP set up...

(that's--- loan - repayment - assistance - program --- i take it the terms really vary with each school, but generally, they pay (or at least help to pay) your bills if you're making less than 40K a year and meet the other terms needed to qualify


The thing is they vary so wildly school to school it's hard to say. I have spent a lot of time looking into these because I am planning on gov't work. You should ask any school you're considering the tough questions. I called up the financial aid office and asked 2 questions after I could not find it in all the fine print.

Also, many schools (Georgetown for me) seem to try to make it sound so complicated that you'll have no idea what it takes to qualify. It's a confusing thing but call the school and get real information.

Law School Admissions / Re: Will my major make me stand out enough
« on: March 18, 2007, 11:09:30 PM »
Its been said before, but I will say it again...

Law school is a numbers game. You don't have to stand out. You WILL get in to W & M with those numbers- most likely with $$$

Reall? My numbers seem pretty average.

It's a matter of actually scoring that high on the LSAT. You must do tons of times LSATs in realisticish testing setting. I think your major is nice in that it's different but it's probably not going to make a huge difference.

Law School Admissions / Re: Only my top pick gave me money
« on: March 18, 2007, 11:07:46 PM »
I think it might be Haram to wonder, but the only school that gave me money was my top choice (minnesota).  What does this mean?  I plan to work in the public sector so I really don't care too much about the whole HYS thing... but this makes me wonder if I should have applied higher.

They were probably more LSAT centric than some others. Who knows? Congrats!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan vs. Texas
« on: March 18, 2007, 11:06:44 PM »
Sorry, absolutely should have said what I want to do, and from the postings thus far this may tip the scales significantly (though perhaps not that much). 

I want to live and practice in NYC after graduation, probably biglaw litigation and then (maybe) prosecutorial work.  Obviously at Michigan that track would be no problem.  I'm less clear on whether it's actually a *disadvantage* to go to NYC from UT, in that the percentages of people going from UT to NYC seems to be biased by a self-selecting Texas-centric student body.  I'd like to clerk, but have no interest in academia.  I'm very interested in things like this (from Drew P): "A cousin from a San Francisco BIGLAW firm said to them they'd both look only at top 10% from either school whereas his Chicago big firm would look at Michigan top 25% and Texas top 10%."  That seems like a huge difference, if true.

If Texas doesn't place much on the east coast simply because most of their students want to stay in Texas, that wouldn't seem to be a disadvantage.  If, however, it's because firms look at a smaller number of students or, even worse, simply don't recruit from UT, that's a problem.

In your situation I'd go to Michigan. The 25% vs. 10% thing was for a Chicago firm not NY, but I'm sure Michigan holds more weight in the NYC big firm circles than does Texas as well. May not be as stark as the Chicago difference but that's what it was for his firm.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Texas v. Vandy v. GWU
« on: March 18, 2007, 11:04:01 PM »

i'd be out of state and would ideally like to end up in DC, NYC, or ATL in a big firm for at least a few years...Does Texas really get that much credit outside the state and is it worth turning down $$ at those other schools??

It's just a matter of specific taste then. UT is ranked higher and generally known to be better (in Law circles) than those 2 schools. I think though, it's basically a wash. UT = slightly better education for slightly higher cost. Just decide which is the best fit. I'd personally choose GW if I was out-of-state and not particularly interested in staying as long as their scholarship was renewable.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Texas v. Vandy v. GWU
« on: March 18, 2007, 07:38:17 PM »
Out-of-state Texas tuiton I'd take GW.

IN-state I'd probably take Texas unless I was set on living in the east, then I'd take GW. It seems to get more credit in the DC area then it deserves. (Don't get me wrong, it's a great school but it gets EVEN MORE credit there, or so they say)

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan vs. Texas
« on: March 18, 2007, 07:27:40 PM »
Of course, I'm not saying UT places poorly in Texas.  That would be dumb.   ;)

The OP never said where he/she wants to live or what he/she wants to do as a lawyer.  These might influence decisions.  Michigan casts the wider net (compared to UT), though, in terms of national clout and placement in pretty much anything.

You're right. Michigan is accepted as a better school. I think sometimes people overestimate just how much people care about that difference but yes Michigan is a better school and they  seem to be better at placing you at BIGLAW (and other areas as well), especially if you're looking to work outside of Texas.

Law School Admissions / Re: Tier 2 vs. Tier 3 vs. Tier 4
« on: March 18, 2007, 07:24:53 PM »
Location Location Location.

If you're not going to Harvard Yale or Stanford location needs to be a factor. And if you're going to tier 2 or 3 or 4 geographic location should be your MAIN factor because odds are very good you'll be working there.

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