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Just finished first year PT while working 30 hours/week. 

PROS: get good work experience while going to school; employer may have education reimbursement; students tend to be less competitive and more friendly/helpful; students have other things to talk about besides law school; keeps law school in perspective; students tend to be older and have a good idea of which field they want to work in; very few ridiculous/stupid questions

CONS: all you do is work and school; about half of the other students in the PT program were not working; using vacation days during exam time; have to be extremely efficient and focused

Current Law Students / Re: help - freaking out!!
« on: May 31, 2007, 11:29:44 AM »
Relax.  First of all because you did average the first semester, you probably will not even be on academic probation, even if your last grade is a D.  At worst, if your last grade is an F, then you may have to retake that class.  Second, think about what you did different from last semester that may have led to your lower grades.  Also, see if you can meet with your professors to review where you went wrong on the exam.  Third, remember the saying, "the A students become professors, the B students become judges and the C students practice law and make all the money".    

The only thing your grades will preclude you from is participating in on campus interviews.  Considering only the top 10 to 20 percent do on campus interviews, you like most of your class mates, will have to find a summer associate position on your own.  Luckily you are in a great position to find an associate position, because you are already working for a firm.  Start networking at work, talk to some of the attorneys, see if you can find a mentor, or see if you can join the incoming pool of summer associates.  Plus, your grade situation is more understandable if you are working while going to school.  

Current Law Students / Re: Parol Evidence?
« on: May 01, 2007, 12:32:33 PM »
What case book are you using?  The two parole evidence cases I recall were written by Judge Kozinski and Judge Traynor and they reflected the traditional rule and the modern rule.  The traditional rule being if it looked like a complete document, then no parole evidence.  The modern rule (in effect in California) allows parole evidence even if it looks like a complete document. 

Current Law Students / Re: Most Hated 1L Class
« on: May 01, 2007, 12:12:27 PM »
I have a love/hate relationship with legal writing.  I hate that it is was only three credits for the year, yet took so much time.  I really liked my professor, she was by far the most helpful professor I've had so far.

California bar exam also allows extra time for people with certain learning disorders.  I knew a guy who qualified for this and was able to pass the bar.  However, he had a hard time keepping a job because he could not keep up with the deadlines.  Giving students extra time for exams really is a double edge sword.  On the one hand they can pass a class or pass the bar, but on the other hand, they have a difficult time practicing law.

Current Law Students / Re: using free west & lexis during summer...
« on: April 20, 2007, 11:15:58 AM »
Received this email from Westlaw:

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Current Law Students / Re: info on western state, la verne, FCSL
« on: March 14, 2007, 10:53:03 AM »
Do you have any work experience or are you fresh out of undergrad? 

What aspects of the sports and entertainment field do you like? 

What is the price difference between a masters in sports admin and law school?

Current Law Students / Re: Contracts Supplements
« on: February 22, 2007, 04:05:11 PM »
If you started with damages, then the beginning is really confusing.  Go and talk with your professor or the teaching assistant.  Contracts itself is so unlike other core subjects because it is heavily guided by restatements and the UCC.  Remember that UCC only applies to sale of goods (not land or services).  Your case book probably lists the applicable restatement or UCC either before or after the illustrative cases. 

Siegal's has some good simple essay questions, that are split up into different categories.  This way, you can see how what you are learning fits into real world sceanrios.  Plus, their explations include which restatements to apply. 

Current Law Students / Re: Have you taken the PATENT BAR?
« on: February 21, 2007, 04:08:31 PM »
Yes, I have taken the patent exam.  Plan on 200 hours of intense studying.  PLI and PRG are the two main prep courses, but they cost around $2,500.  If you are working for a company or firm, they may pay to send you to one of the classes.  Alternatively, you might find a used course on Ebay, but make sure the course is not too old because there were significant changes to the law in 1995 and 2000.  Here is a forum with a section dedicated to the patent exam.  

Good Luck

Current Law Students / Re: I'm just here for the Westlaw & Lexis points.
« on: January 31, 2007, 02:29:36 PM »
Probably not what you're dreaming of, but I got all my supplements for this semester plu $50 gift cards after racking up 7,000 points on the 2 sites combined.

How on earth did you get 7,000 points?  I used Westalw for all my research and am still under 500 points.

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