RESURRECT THIS CLASSIC THREAD!
wow. I guess it varies by district. Interesting stuff.
On the parts other than judges discretion, have you thought about contacting the bar to file complaints or asking clients to do the same if they feel their rights adversely affected?
A judge about 5 years ago "retired" after refusing to allow miscogenation marriages "for the good of future children". The never married parental rights issue seems very simular to that from a rights perspective.
And anytime anyone "refuses" to do their job, heck start with the bar and then try it in the media. Just get the turds flushed out.
The judges personalities is for sure a thing you have to pick up along with way (along with other personalities depending on who you commonly have as your OP and if you have to deal with juries, etc, I am sure) No way to beat that but doing it first hand multiple times.
As for the "extra" papers. What type of stuff is that normally? I know the clerks "can't give legal advise" (and they think that is even though the courts have rules that helping give directions on papers is NOT legal advise, they still hide behind the lie due to laziness(etc) ) but I am suprised the schools can't mention those papers in classes like pretrial skills or trial prep.
Can you give a few examples for those of use still novus to it?
I don't doubt your honesty, but the "didnt make much money" part would make zero dif. If you made $0 but still got free rent for work done, the IRS would still view that as income if it was in front of a tax judge to decide. Good to know they aren't bugging you over it, but they could have.
So would you say the clinics are the better options for those who want to go solo then (compared to the option you took).
What "tricks" have you picked up? I'm assuming all good stuff, anything worth sharing? Why do you think they don't teach them in school?
No argument that better experienced people do better jobs. Thats for sure.
The who tit for tat argument on the rent issue would have bombed in tax court if you were on the taking end of the stick, but like I said most don't and most don't get called out on it, plus SOL, so unless C&F got up on you (and they won't) eh, I guess.
Didn't you school require externships and clinics to get experience though? Did you really enter without any real world practice other than (the self contained-bubbly boy-joke) that is called moot court or law review?
I meant where you were compared to where you are. (the big firm vs the not the big firm)
I don't doubt that you did at least as much if not more work than solo's I was just pointed out that you had responded to comment on the " I tried the solo thing for 6 months and didn't like it" part.
As for the services for not paying rent, did you make sure to include that in your end of year income? (FMV of rent deferred in exchange for services rendered) I ask since most know they should, and yet most do not.
It sounds to me less like you were a solo practioner and more like you worked for a small firm with some work on the side. Not the same as starting from scratch, but still valuable real life experience and I thank you for that.
Are you just trying to compare small to big firms?
Do you think you could have gotten into the big firm without the experience you gained from the other work?
Hahaha... So far I'm actually being helpful, but I could see this devolving quickly ... lol. I feel kind of sorry for them, actually ... I started law school just before all the doom and gloom economy, and everyone was all happy and positive. Ohhhhh well. Times is tough!
That's what I don't get about people. I see it in all trades and walks of life. People have a job they can get in a good economy and go "no I want to go to school, it is sunny outside so let's stay inside" and then when they can't find work that is worth having, they go "no I will not go to school the economy is bad, it is cloudy and rainy outside so I must stay out doors".
Are people just plain retarded?
Hah. Starting your own practice is only good for tons of stress and no money. I know from experience. It took me 6 months to give up on that little experiment born from desperation!
Someone with actual real world experience and not just rehashing BS they read online or heard in class............ VERY REFRESHING!
Just out of curiosity what type of law did you practice in those 6 months, how did you find clients/very many/how much would you say you made overall and what were your overall costs for that period? Was it just you or you and a few other grads? Did you get absorbed into a firm, find a non legal job, or just hop into a line at the soup kitchen(nothing wrong with soup, I love it)
I ask since I am curious about hearing real life experience on it. Was it just the lack of clients or what? Don't most businesses (legal or non) take at least 2 years to grow regardless of what you are selling?