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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:40:46 AM »
See but you need a 20 point player and defensive player to swap for pippen...Like i said, every championship team has two good players.....

agreed.  but 20 point players are easy to come by.  like I said, Pippen was a sufficient but not a necessary condition.  pippen is NOT pippen without jordan.  bulls lost a few times with pippen, namely all those series against detroit.  pippen had to grow and jordan made him do this.  everyone knows jordan is notorious for pushing the hell out of teamates.  give him any athlete...rashard lewis type and he would have made him into a pippen


On this note, I'm off to bed.

Madness, you one cool dude, but damn if we don't disagree on ballin. lol.

Too bad there's only like 6 of us on this board interested in basketball, but that's the breaks.


Whatever the merits of the Kobe/Jordan debate...one thing is for certain:

Kobe>>>>>>>>Lebron


Agreed. Have a goodnite.  ;)

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:38:02 AM »
See but you need a 20 point player and defensive player to swap for pippen...Like i said, every championship team has two good players.....


I am not de-valueing pippen. I am saying however, pippen could have been replaced.

You could have swapped pippen.

Could the bulls have swapped Michael Jordan and won 6 F'n rings? Hellllllllllllll NO.


Had Michael Jordan not played, this discussion would not even be taking place.


In a few years, your grand kids are going to come up to you and ask you. Grandpa, "Did you ever get the opportunity to watch Michael Jordan play?" There will be NO MENTION of Scottie Pippen.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:31:45 AM »
Do you remember that pippen took the bulls to the playoffs without Jordan?  And he averaged a career high that year...they were a playoff team without jordan...


Stop acting like making the playoffs is an accomplishment. Its not. Anybody can lead there squad of misfits to the playoffs. The orlando magic were in the playoffs this year. A team BELOW .500.


Ask Kobe about the playoffs. He has "led" his team the last two years. Sadly, he is starting to get used to being home by late april now.
 

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:27:37 AM »
who cares.  thats like a chess player saying could kasparov put you in check fifteen times straight without taking any pawns????  duh,,,the point of the game is checkmate/ teh win Kobe!!  just because he has succeeded in scoring a ridiculous number of points with a nice fg percentage in no games that matter and to no end in particular...I say, so?   

"Who said pippen was BETTER than Jordan? I only said Pippen MADE Jordan...meaning without PIP, not titles for Jordan meaning he WOULD NOT be considered the GOAT. Understand that?"

put any 20 point wing man there and you Jordan is Jordan.  Pippen is not Pippen without Jordan.  Pippen was a sufficient but not necessary condition for those studying the LSAT



Madness,

You need to teach these fools.

You speak the truth. Pippen was a piece that was missing in the puzzle for Jordan to win that title. But that piece was plentiful. Make no mistake about it, had Pippen not come to the bulls, the Bulls could have secured another 20 8 8 guy and won the same. No disrespect to Pip. Just saying Pip was replacable and Jordan was irreplacable.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:20:04 AM »
For GOD sakes, you guys are missing possibly the silliest comment in history.


Some dude said Pippen meant more to the bulls than Jordan.


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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:16:54 AM »
just a reminder of why kobe is a whiny little female dog, and is the only LOSER with 3 rings.  2004 finals stats:

Kobe Bryant  5  5 46.2 .381 .174 .920 .40 2.40 2.80 4.4 1.80 .60 3.60 3.00 22.6

17% from three point line?? and you know he jacked up at least 50.  4 assists for one of their primary ballhandlers who had shaq much less.  christ..38 percent from the field??? 3.6 turnovers ughh almost a 1 to 1 assist to ratio..ughshaq had nearly as many assists.  2.8 rebs..at 6'8 christ

pippen made jordan..ahahahahahha...either flame, or coming from someone who only watched the bulls on the espn classic.  you must not remember "scotties" headaches that he used to get and have to leave the game because the pistons beat his ass up so bad.  jordan made scottie.  it was jordans toughness that rubbed off on scottie and made him respectable.  jordan would get knocked down so bad everytime he hit the lane against those guys it made me his number one fan as a little tot almost cry when it happened.  you are mmore believable with the kobe lebron sh*t and have exceeded your reach here.


Can you believe that guy?  ???

Pippen better than Jordan?  :-X

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:14:48 AM »
I know you guys are going to jump on me...But I think Kobe is just as good as Jordan was....



I am gonna let that comment go.


You really didn't know better.  ;D



No one understands how DIFFICULT it is to win a title without a legitimate big man.

Seriously, Shaq made Kobes life so easy. He made Kobe shine.

Until Kobe can win and lead a team to a title alone, I cannot classify him as a legitimate candidate for Jordan level status.



When I classified Kobe as the closest to MJ, that is because he has the athletic ability MJ had. He does not have, however, the defensive mindset. He also does not have that Basketball IQ that jordan had. Jordan knew how to make everyone else around him better. For God sakes, he made bill wennington, luc longley, bill cartwright, etc LEGITMATE big men.


Scottie Pippen is among the NBA's 50 greatest player. Why? Because he played alongside Michael Jordan? Do you think Scottie would have been on that list had he not been playing with MJ? Nope. He would have been throwing chairs into the crowd ala the year 1994.


Revisionist history is so funny.

Pippen MADE Jordan. I remember Jordan being a punk scorer who couldn't win without Pippen. Pippen led teams to elite status without Jordan. Can't say the same thing about Jordan without Pippen.



Wait..

Did you just say pippen is better than Jordan? Pippen led Jordan?

May god have mercy on your soul.

Can you explain why the whole world, even after the man is old and crusty and no longer hoops, is wearing his sneakers. 


No one is wearing AIR PIPPENS

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:09:38 AM »
Going to the playoffs isnt an acomplishment unfortunately.



I can understand your admiration for Kobe though. My little brother is the same way. We have this discussion everyday.


 ;D


One thing is for sure, Kobe is a far superior rapper to MJ.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 02:00:19 AM »
I know you guys are going to jump on me...But I think Kobe is just as good as Jordan was....



I am gonna let that comment go.


You really didn't know better.  ;D



No one understands how DIFFICULT it is to win a title without a legitimate big man.

Seriously, Shaq made Kobes life so easy. He made Kobe shine.

Until Kobe can win and lead a team to a title alone, I cannot classify him as a legitimate candidate for Jordan level status.



When I classified Kobe as the closest to MJ, that is because he has the athletic ability MJ had. He does not have, however, the defensive mindset. He also does not have that Basketball IQ that jordan had. Jordan knew how to make everyone else around him better. For God sakes, he made bill wennington, luc longley, bill cartwright, etc LEGITMATE big men.


Scottie Pippen is among the NBA's 50 greatest player. Why? Because he played alongside Michael Jordan? Do you think Scottie would have been on that list had he not been playing with MJ? Nope. He would have been throwing chairs into the crowd ala the year 1994.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: the NBA Playoffs
« on: June 15, 2007, 01:46:35 AM »
Madness,


You misinterpreted my post. I agree that Lebron is a great player. I believe he has an extremely bright future.


I just hated how everyone ( bandwagon fans and the media) were quickly hyping him up as the "official MJ replacement" once he had that breakout game in Detoit.


Truth of the matter is, Lebron James has aspects of his game that need work to be compared to the greatest of all time. Of course, he is only 22 so he has the potential. But, I strongly become agitated whenever a player has a strong or break out game or series, or season even, and then all of a sudden, we start hearing "the Next MJ" talk.


Here is the bottom line. Right Now in the NBA, Love him or Hate him, Kobe is the closest anyone has ever come to Jordan. But Kobe doesn't come close.





one game???  and AI had a better team.  Mutumbo when he was still wagging his finger.  Snow when he was d'ing suckers up and good for ten or twelve, and a pretty versatile McKie.  LeBron was years younger all by his lonesome.  And the Spurs are a pretty freaking strong team.  Lebron and the Cavs had there chances to take one or two. Hes too young.  We can argue all day about the best player in the league, but saying people should get off LBJ's nuts is ridiculous.  hes one of the best things the NBA has going right now, and no one can argue with that     

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