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2L job search / Re: callbacks- how many are enough?
« on: September 19, 2007, 05:22:38 AM »
After a really good round of first interviews, I've had several callbacks extended. A few questions: first, how many should I go on to realistically expect a job offer? second, what is the protocol for declining interviews? third, how far out can I schedule callbacks without the firm thinking I'm making them my last resort (ie, would scheduling callbacks for early october be too far off)? Our career services office sucks and is swamped with questions or I would just them. Tyia...

I got a very early offer from one of my top choice firms (at the time) and I ultimately canceled ~10 callbacks.  In my defense I have to take this really unstable jet propelled bull of a plane with an extremely high likelihood of like crashing and *&^%... In any event, I sorta feel like an a-hole because some of the firms I canceled are starting to look very appealing because their QOL is supposedly infinitely better.

If you have the time, patience, and tolerance for airports, i'd cancel only those firms that you're absolutely uninterested in but go to everything else.  Also, you never know... you might end up applying to these places as a 3L or as a lateral.  I don't know what the ramifications are but they might not like you very much if you start rejecting their callback invitations...

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2L job search / Re: Have SA position. Question about buying some stuff...
« on: September 19, 2007, 05:17:26 AM »
I have been offered a sweet SA position and I have accepted (will be making really sick money, more than I ever thought it would be). I'm not a big spender, and I have tons of debt. But, I know I will have to buy some nice clothes. Also, I can get a new phone, and I'm thinking of buying a Treo. If I buy a Treo, will I be actually be able to use it as an SA or will I just look like a tool?

Should I buy a tablet PC?

I want to buy cool stuff that will help me now as a law student and as a SA. Any suggestions?

You are definitely entitled to buy some nice things for yourself but don't go overboard.  With the way the economy is going there might be an increased chance in getting no/soft offers.  Hopefully it won't happen to any of us but the possibility is still there :(

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2L job search / Re: Questions to ask at OCI Interview
« on: September 19, 2007, 05:15:42 AM »
There are lots of questions that one can ask at OCI. You can always ask the interviewer why they chose the firm--it gives him/her an opportunity to tell you a little about him/herself and what about the firm attracted him/her. You can also ask about the firm's growth prospects--it shows that you are interested in where the firm is headed. You can ask about whether there are any formal mentoring/training programs. If international work is important to you, ask how much of the work is cross-border. In short, there are any number of questions that you can ask. Your school's OCS should have some sort of handout on interviewing and what kinds of questions to ask. 

A few rules of thumb, though: avoid asking questions about salary, benefits, etc. (that is for after you get an offer) and also avoid asking any questions that you can answer easily by simply looking at the firm's website.

Terrible advice.  Unless the interviewer is new to the firm, do not ask "why did you choose this firm".  Why, because 200 other interviewees have asked that already.  Also do not ask "does your firm offer formal training", because every firm offers formal training.  Be more specific with your questions. 

One of my interviewers thanked me for not asking the "why you choose that firm?"  Interviewers hear this question over and over again from unoriginal interviewees and they get annoyed with it... or so he says...

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2L job search / Re: Freaking out
« on: September 19, 2007, 04:50:27 AM »
I do have 2 years work experience in finance and I am targeting NC, primarily Charlotte, which is supposed to be the second biggest financial center in the states. I thought it would be a good match, lol.

In a market like Charlotte, your ties to the city are WAY WAY more important than your academic or work background. If you aren't from there, don't have family there, or don't have a wife from there, they will basically just write you off and move on.

Add Richmond to the list

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2L job search / Re: Freaking out
« on: September 13, 2007, 12:05:35 PM »
if the economy keeps crapping out who knows what'll happen with the salaries...

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Transferring / Re: stuck at Cooley, want to transfer, few questions.
« on: September 13, 2007, 02:56:08 AM »
I thought 15 credit hours was the standard for the first semester?

In any event, it certainly is manageable.  It certainly sounds to me like you have your head in the right place and you have the motivation to excel so i'm fairly certain you'll do fine in your first year and xfer into a much better school. 

Whatever you think of your classmates, don't get overconfident or cocky.  A lot of intelligent 1Ls do poorly their first year because they vastly underestimate their competition.  Just keep up with your work and study your brains out and you should be fine at the very end. 

Good luck to you chief. 

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2L job search / Re: Freaking out
« on: September 13, 2007, 01:13:44 AM »
What regions are you looking at?  I heard that certain regions are cutting back on summer associate offers b/c of a bad economy and whatnot.  I haven't done much research into this but from what i've heard and read this might be a bit of a problem for us...

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2L job search / Re: After the offer
« on: September 12, 2007, 11:40:08 AM »
I expect any and all firms to do reference checks.  At the very least they will call the human resources department to make sure that you aren't adding fictional companies and job titles to your resume.  They will probably ask if there were any disciplinary problems and ask to speak to your manager if they have the time.

Wouldn't you expect this to happen before the offer?

The offer they mail you said that the summer associate position is contingent on a satisfactory background check and whatnot so I guess they do it after they extend the offer. 

Also, if you have A LOT of callbacks scheduled you may want to cancel some but if you only have a few I would consider just going.  Half the callbacks I canceled did NOT go well and the recruiting people were not very happy... i'm sure the ramifications aren't catastrophic or anything but it's probably not a good idea to be burning bridges before you even start working. 

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General Board / Re: LR/ LJ
« on: September 11, 2007, 03:32:38 PM »
So I didn't make Law Review or Law Journal heading into my 2L year.  Does this put me in a really bad position?  They absolutely drill into our heads that employers mostly require one or the other.

Well if you have really good grades and no LR/LJ, your interviewers might ask why you aren't on.  They wouldn't ask in a rude manner but they'd be curious as to what happened. 

A lot of it also depends on what school you go to and what market you're looking in.  B

Best of luck to you. 

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General Board / Re: law review
« on: September 11, 2007, 03:30:29 PM »
so i had to hand in my casenote today...and well everything possible went wrong. long story short, i was supposed to hand in 8 manilla folders w/the casenote stapled on the right and the footnotes on the left. well i ended up handing in 8 manilla folders and only one of them had footnotes!! to make matters worse i stapled the papers on the wrong side of the manilla envelope. the bluebook and the casenote is the only thing judged in the competition. am i doomed to be rejected?

Wait the law review write-on submissions were due just a few days ago?  Isn't it a bit too late for the competition?  recruiting season is in full-swing and by the time you figure out whether or not you got on law review recruiting season might be over... (for biglaw firms at least)

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