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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: U.S. News & World Report may expand their numerical rankings of law schools to i« on: March 13, 2011, 07:24:01 PM »Quote Would you tell a prospective law student that there's no difference between a school ranked 20 by US News, and one ranked 62? No, but I would tell a prospective law student there's not much of a difference between a school ranked 52 and 72. 32
Where should I go next fall? / Re: Will online JD's ever be ABA approved?« on: February 23, 2011, 09:03:44 PM »
Ask Nostradamus.
As far as the process for practicing law in Florida, most states have a 5-year reciprocity requirement. However, I believe some states may not allow a non-ABA grad to practice at all (not sure on that). 33
Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Best Law School Ranking List???? I know it isn't U.S. News!« on: February 20, 2011, 11:57:28 AM »http://www.cooley.edu/rankings/nfl_analogy.html Everybody knows that Princeton has the best law school. 34
Law School Applications / Re: Options for people who suck at the LSAT and have a low GPA« on: February 19, 2011, 10:32:08 AM »
This thread has jumped the shark. I'm locking it.
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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Best Law School Ranking List???? I know it isn't U.S. News!« on: February 18, 2011, 07:30:21 PM »
US News is about right for the top 14. After that, the NLJ 250 placement ranking is an OK (but imperfect) bet.
The problem with rankings is that they are one-size fits all. Not everyone has the same financial situation, and not everyone has the same post-graduation goals. 36
Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Wayne State: Worth it?« on: February 18, 2011, 07:28:24 PM »Quote Doing well at WSU will give you a decent shot at just about any MI law firm. With a few noteworthy exceptions, doing well enough at any school will give you a decent shot at just about any firm anywhere. 37
Where should I go next fall? / Re: UW (OOS) vs Lewis and Clark $$ vs Gonzaga $$$« on: February 18, 2011, 07:27:03 PM »
What's the cost of UW? What are the conditions on the Gonzaga scholarship?
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Where should I go next fall? / Re: A list of questions« on: February 18, 2011, 07:25:45 PM »Quote
#1. There is no rank cutoff. After the top 20-30 schools, US news gets quite wonky. Any "University of XYZ" will probably be fine. But any school can be a bad decision if it involves too much debt. Almost all the horror stories come from people who were heavily indebted AND couldn't find a job. If you have no debt and no family to support, hacking it as a solo isn't nearly as bad. #2. Advantage: may allow you to work in Canada, can study civil law at McGill. In general, the Canadian market is much less saturated than the US market. I wouldn't recommend a Canadian school for US practice. Even the U of Toronto only places a handful of people in the US post graduation. #3. As far as admissions, maybe a small boost. For jobs, wouldn't really matter. #4. Law review: depends on school. Usually is based on grades, a writing competition, or some combination thereof. 39
Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Non-ABA versus ABA« on: February 11, 2011, 12:25:00 AM »Quote No desire to be long winded here. Simply put, pass the California Bar say through famous on liner Concord or other many non-ABA california schools or Alabama or elsewhere, get your fully ABA accredited LLM on-line from Thomas Jefferson or other BM school and suddenly you are a serious international and domestic tax and business attorney that can pretty much practice anywhere in the world. I am a tax attorney at a large law firm, and I have never ever come across another tax lawyer who did not go to an ABA school. It may be theoretically possible, but it's highly unlikely. 40
Where should I go next fall? / Re: I need a lot of help...a million choices« on: February 11, 2011, 12:19:42 AM »Quote Tier 3 and 4 schools that have given me FULL SCHOLARSHIPS or close to it, lower end Tier 1 schools like Catholic University of America that have given me a moderate scholarship but will still require me to pay $20,000 to $25,000 a year, and more solid Tier 1 schools like Loyola in Chicago, University of Denver, etc. where I will have to pay $35,000 to $40,000. So I guess what I am asking is, as a general rule, would it be more wise to go to school for virtually nothing but sacrifice the kinds of connections the Tier 1 schools offer, or would it be better to go to a school like Catholic University of America where the cost is moderate but still a total of $60,000 to $75,000 more than a Tier 3 and 4 school, OR am I better off going to the best school I can provided that it is the best 1 or 2 schools in the market? Any advice would be really helpful! I really just, cannot make up my mind. All of the cities that I have narrowed it down to are great, so it's not about living...it's mostly about finances at this point. I would be inclined to take the full ride, assuming the GPA conditions aren't too onerous. Remember that law school grading is nothing like undergrad grading. A 3.0 is by no means a sure bet even if you work hard at a lot of T3/4 schools. The schools you described like CUA are really not 1st tier schools. US News arbitrarily decided to skip eliminate the 2nd tier a few years ago, but anything below top 50 is generally considered 2nd tier. In any case, even a school like CUA gives you very little chance of getting a job at a large firm- which is the only easy way to pay back 100k+ of loans. It's much easier to go into a small firm or start your own without huge debts. |
