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I never used the games bible or this website while preparing, so I apologize in advance if this advice is already spelled out often and much better, but FWIW, one thing that helped me conquer the games section was forcing myself to write out more examples when the answer to a question wasn't clear, instead of just staring at it and at the clues and trying to figure out how they related. (So, eg., I might write down an actual ordering that tried to fit the criteria the question asked for and find something wrong). At first I didn't, as I figured that would be a waste of time (what if my first example doesn't work?! I might have to write tons!) but at least that gives you something to do so you can keep working. As a bonus, it can greatly improve your understanding of the problem and make the next questions go faster.

I do tend to think differently from others sometimes, so this might be just the wrong advice in some cases. I just thought I'd throw it out there, though, since it helped me a lot on my worse section.

Best,
Stuart

I'll agree with Stuart on this one.  I was having a lot of trouble for a while until I started to do more mini diagrams beside questions.  I had convinced myself that it would waste too much time but what I didn't consider was that trying to do the questions without a diagram wasted more because I had to try and juggle 4-5 rules in my head at a time.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 30, 2007, 09:07:06 AM »
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Given Patrick's recent string of preptest scores however, it is likely that he will be able to give most of the correct responses.

Oh please. Relying on one person because they claim to have a "recent string of preptest scores" that are good to judge a post-mortem would be inane. That's why with the PMs there's always much debate, even among the highest scorers, on multiple questions. And they all get multiple questions wrong. But there's a consensus that is reached when you have 50 people all working together. Unfortunately we can't do that on the boards here as jetsboy has pointed out.



If we can't do pm after the test, then why is last year's Feb pm avaiable here? if you run a search, there's pm for feb just like all the other tests. does that mean who participated in it got into trouble for participating? duh.

I don't so much think he's saying you CAN'T do a PM if you want to.  He's just advising that it might be in the best interest of the people on the board not to.  Specifically his example of a feb. test being reused was enough to convince me that I should just avoid the PM.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 29, 2007, 02:53:13 PM »
The other day I had a question where I transferred the answer wrong, that was just nasty and annoying when I looked at it for 5 minutes trying to figure out why it was wrong, lol.  I really am sorry to hear that though because I was really rooting for you.  Well, now I suppose I'll do it again (you are still taking in Feb. again right?).

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 29, 2007, 02:23:06 PM »
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Given Patrick's recent string of preptest scores however, it is likely that he will be able to give most of the correct responses.

Oh please. Relying on one person because they claim to have a "recent string of preptest scores" that are good to judge a post-mortem would be inane. That's why with the PMs there's always much debate, even among the highest scorers, on multiple questions. And they all get multiple questions wrong. But there's a consensus that is reached when you have 50 people all working together. Unfortunately we can't do that on the boards here as jetsboy has pointed out.


I realize you can't blindly rely on one person because of the fact that they had a good (high) string of recent preptests but at some point that person does have more weight overall than others with lower average scores. 
The key for December was to wait and see what Elusivehumpbackwhale picked and make sure that was not the answer you selected.  Unfortunately I dont think he will be taking in Feb.
I watched this

I averaged 171 (or maybe even 172) on my last 10 prep tests before the Sept. LSAT (granted I scored high 160's on PT 48/49 in that last 10) but I was (obviously) wrong about a good number of questions. Missed 10 on LR, after all (9 in one section!).

  I was talking to you before you took it through PMs.  I was wondering how it happened.  It looks like you just had one really bad section.  I am sorry about that as it sounds more like a case of the nerves/etc. than anything else.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 29, 2007, 01:01:42 PM »
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Given Patrick's recent string of preptest scores however, it is likely that he will be able to give most of the correct responses.

Oh please. Relying on one person because they claim to have a "recent string of preptest scores" that are good to judge a post-mortem would be inane. That's why with the PMs there's always much debate, even among the highest scorers, on multiple questions. And they all get multiple questions wrong. But there's a consensus that is reached when you have 50 people all working together. Unfortunately we can't do that on the boards here as jetsboy has pointed out.


I realize you can't blindly rely on one person because of the fact that they had a good (high) string of recent preptests but at some point that person does have more weight overall than others with lower average scores. 
The key for December was to wait and see what Elusivehumpbackwhale picked and make sure that was not the answer you selected.  Unfortunately I dont think he will be taking in Feb.
I watched this happen and have to admit that it was fairly comical.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 29, 2007, 11:58:50 AM »
That is a good question jetsboy.  I would doubt it but do not know for sure I suppose.  I always assumed that they would NEVER reuse any questions because it could just cause too many problems for them (say I took before when the question was first used in february) but you never know for sure.  I suppose it is better to stick with caution.  I intend to stay off the boards after february until I recieve my score anyway (so as to not freak out too much if there is a PM).

They reused the Feb. '06 LSAT in December for those who were snowed out for the scheduled date.
Ok, you have just justified to me enough reason for me to not discuss the Feb exam on here.  Thanks for the heads up and watching out for others Jetsboy!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: DoJ jobs...top school choices?
« on: January 29, 2007, 10:57:54 AM »
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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 29, 2007, 10:50:42 AM »
That is a good question jetsboy.  I would doubt it but do not know for sure I suppose.  I always assumed that they would NEVER reuse any questions because it could just cause too many problems for them (say I took before when the question was first used in february) but you never know for sure.  I suppose it is better to stick with caution.  I intend to stay off the boards after february until I recieve my score anyway (so as to not freak out too much if there is a PM).

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To me one of the biggest issues on games is just spending the time that I need on all of them.  When I try to rush through the first one because, "Oh noes I've already wasted my 8:45" I end up doing a whole lot worse.  I will always have one or two that I can do in about 5-6 minutes so as long as I remember that and just work the games without stressing about time I do fine.  This would be my biggest recomendation to you.  Spend the time necessary to get all of the answers correct on the games you decide to do.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: See you all in 13 days
« on: January 29, 2007, 10:29:33 AM »
Any PM for february will be purely informaitonal.  It is effectively to help you decide if you think you did well or not.  But you are correct that it isn't released so there will never be any way to actually check the answers.  Given Patrick's recent string of preptest scores however, it is likely that he will be able to give most of the correct responses.

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