« on: January 25, 2008, 11:17:49 PM »
I agree, the lateness is really unprofessional.
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$40k debt isn't bad. Lots of people graduate undergrad with that kind of debt. If you lost your scholarship though...you may want to seriously reconsider law school. Paying full price for a T3 would be rough.
At the very bottom of a T3 I'd still say the options are broader than roy is making them out to be. Assuming you're in a small or midsize market where your school is respected, and if you're not shy about getting your name out there, I'm sure you could get an associate position and eventually rise through the ranks of a respectable local firm.
Government work, on the other hand, might require more than a JD and a pulse, depending on local supply and demand.
Don't lose hope. It's only the first semester. Figure out what happened and do it better next time.
Ditto for Peaches.
Debt-free undergrad might make sense because the work is easy, grades really don't matter and no one cares about anything other than that you got your degree.
Debt-free JD is stupid. If you graduate with nothing more than mediocre grades and three years of working at Starbucks, you're hosed.
« on: January 25, 2008, 08:25:24 PM »
IMO a legal education is a bad "investment" from a financial point of view. There are cheaper ways to make money if that's what you're looking for. In fact with an engineering degree you already have something marketable, in contrast to the vast numbers of english, poli sci, economics and history majors in law school.
I want to strongly emphasize this: you should want to go to and pay for law school because you want to be a lawyer, not because you want to make money. If you just want to make money then do not go to law school. Go be an engineer, or get some business training and be an executive at some tech place.
For your more nitty-gritty questions, you should ask your school or your lender. You should not be relying on random forum answers for a ~$100k loan.
I think if you get the interview then you've passed the grade test.
Keep things in perspective. Being average at a T25 means you're average in a group of smart people. That's pretty good. I'm sure if you cast a wide enough net and be persistent you'll get some bites.
You need to do something legal related, be it work or volunteering or interning or being a research assistant for a professor. You need legal experience on your resume and you need stuff to talk about in interviews.
Also if you are planning on doing public interest then your experience should be in public interest, preferably in whatever type of public interest you are ultimately hoping to do after you graduate. PI people want to see commitment to PI causes.
You will be shooting yourself in the foot if you just take classes and play video games all summer.
I think the big problem with getting a job as a PD in a specific small market isn't going to be your school, but rather just the budget reality of that office. The hiring attorney may love you but if the Podunk public defender office only has the budget for five attorneys and all the slots are filled, you're stuck.
I'm only a 1L but I've given this matter some thought, plus I've heard things from people with first-hand knowledge. What I've picked up is, sometimes the budget just doesn't go your way, but if you stay flexible about where you work then you'll find something.
Even assuming your school shoehorns things into a symmetrical distribution around 3.0 (which they may not, like rhesusman is saying), you still need the spread. Think of it like the LSAT. If I told you the median of a school is 160 and you got a 163, you wouldn't know what your chances are. But if I told you that the 25th-75th quartile spread is 159-161, you have a better idea of your chances. If I told you the spread was 155-165, you would also have a better, but different, idea of your chances.