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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 03:18:42 PM »
I did answer the OP's question from what I was told by a close friend.  Then it became a "defend your TTTT" post. 


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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »
So where do you go?

You are my hero lol.  I'm curious to see if you do as well your first year at a Top law school as you did at Dayton.

Either way, you remain the exception and that likely explains your chip on your shoulder.  Got something to prove there big guy?  Why don't you just pull it out and measure it lol?

I got into a top school, I have Biglaw lined up, and I'm not paying for my legal education.  I have NOTHING to gripe about right now.  I simply state my opinion on T3s and T4s.  An opinion shared by many, and with a substantive argument behind our reasoning.

Yet, here you sit, freaking out on me personally rather than addressing the issue at hand.

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 03:04:54 PM »
Aww, no response to the study?

What T3 do I attend?  HAHA!  See, my 4.0 at Dayton my first year allowed me to move up the chain.  I wonder if I was offered a job at one of the BIGLAW firms that rejected you?  Isn't it crazy how the system works?  I couldn't get into a T1 in the first place but after only 1 year of grades and a move up the ladder, I probably received more offers than you, someone who was able to get into a T1 off the bat. 

Again with your analogies.  Seriously, can you please think before you speak.


Dude, nothing personal, but I imagine that you didn't even have screening interviews at some of the firms I had offers from. Ask around the board.  I may be a prick, but I'm definitely not hurting in life lol.  I have a DC BigLaw offer lined up for the summer.

My guess is you are still at a low ranked T1 that doesn't pull nearly as much as the T25 I go to. 

It's great that you were able to transfer, however, you are the exception and not the rule as I've said repeatedly in these posts.  Also, even being NUMBER ONE in your class at Dayton, you still had no hope at a T20 school, which should tell people something out there.....

Oh, and regarding your "study." Cite your source for one, two, I have better things to do than research your study lol.  Lastly, for every 1 case of malpractice there are hundreds of patients that get the treatment they need.  This is a stupid argument and the fact that you think your side has merit doesn't do much for your credibility.

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 03:00:30 PM »
AHHHHHH, I see why the bitterness.... You went to Dayton.... Then you were the exception to the rule and were top in your class, so you assume that everyone will do as well as you did.  However, judging from your posts, and the fact that you said you wish you would have stayed at Dayton, I'm guessing that top of your class at Dayton wasn't even enough to get you into a lower ranked T1.  Plus, now you are competing with higher caliber of students (somewhat) and probably still going to be struggling to get a good job.

Top of the class at a T4 is definitely better than average at a T2 or low T1.


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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 02:56:21 PM »
The system works?  How can you even make a claim that there are more competent doctors?  Did you compare statistics on the number of lawyers each year who are subjected to malpractice suits to the number of doctors?

I mean, seriously, you talk out of your ass more than anyone I've heard on this board.   

Dude you really are a moron.  The bar does not even closely monitor lawyers practices as much as doctors are under scrutiny.  Also, people have a helluva lot more incentive to sue a doctor. 

Not to mention the fact that if a lawyer screwed a person over, do you think they are going to think "I better go find another lawyer?"

So what TTT do you attend?  Still bitter about your dismal future?

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 02:39:49 PM »
The AAMC decides how many people get into medical school each year and how many make it through.  THEN, residency programs are extremely competitive, which assures that the best and brightest get into them.

Sure, there are always exceptions, but the system works.  There are many more competent doctors in the world than there are competent lawyers. 

Also, if you take the AVERAGE, there are going to be many more competent lawyers who came out of top law schools than TTTs or TTTTs.

Contrary to what your mommy told you, not everyone can be whatever they want to be.

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 02:27:02 PM »
Regardless of WHY they are going to law school, someone that has been sub-average in LSAT, GPA, and everything else does not deserve to become a lawyer. 

This argument has come forth many times.  Doctors, dentists, and other professionals are limited on how many can be produced per year.  Lawyers can destroy a person's life just as these other professionals can.  That being said, why should we permitting some sub-average Joe to graduate a horrible TTT or TTTT and then go out and open up a practice?  It just isn't right.

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 01:21:54 PM »
Dude, it's not even "half bad."  It's FOURTH TIER.  Third tier grads struggle to find work, let alone fourth tier. 

Also, I really don't think that most grads get out WITH jobs, let alone making 50-60k. 

Actually, the 25-75% salary range is 45,000-60,000 with a median of 55,892. And 91% of graduates reported, so its safe to assume thats fairly accurate.



You do realize that the schools self-report that information based on those students that actually respond to their surveys.  How this affects the "median salary" is that a) Only students with jobs will respond and b) This includes ANY employment, not just legal employment.

Honestly, if Dayton's self-reported survey shows a median of $55k, that is really really bad.  That means there are many students making far under that who never responded to the survey. Also, like I said before, that includes ANY job.  I hate to break it to you, but I make significantly more than that now with only a Bachelors degree.

Spending $100k on law school only to make $55k is a dumb decision no matter how you cut it.

Lastly, I still stand by saying that TTTs and TTTTs should be shut down.

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 11:34:57 AM »
Dude, it's not even "half bad."  It's FOURTH TIER.  Third tier grads struggle to find work, let alone fourth tier. 

Also, I really don't think that most grads get out WITH jobs, let alone making 50-60k. 

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General Board / Re: Anybody Know Anything About U. Dayton Law School?
« on: April 21, 2008, 08:27:47 AM »
I've been there so you can't say I've never seen it.  Also, you can talk it up all you like dude.  One nice building hardly makes it a great law facility.  Also, REALITY CHECK: IT IS 4th TIER FOR A REASON!!!

I hate to break it to you, but nobody worth working for is going to be heavily recruiting ppl. that got into dayton.  Their numbers are below the median for the LSAT for goodness sakes.

Go ahead though, spend 100k on a legal education to go make 30k doing some crappy job.  It's your life. 

I'm so tired of the "anybody can be a lawyer" arguments on here.  Sure, any jack ass can get into some toilet law school and earn a JD.  However, it's schools like Dayton and other 4th tier rat holes that give the legal profession a bum rap.

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