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Dude, it's not even "half bad."  It's FOURTH TIER.  Third tier grads struggle to find work, let alone fourth tier. 

Also, I really don't think that most grads get out WITH jobs, let alone making 50-60k. 

Actually, the 25-75% salary range is 45,000-60,000 with a median of 55,892. And 91% of graduates reported, so its safe to assume thats fairly accurate.



You do realize that the schools self-report that information based on those students that actually respond to their surveys.  How this affects the "median salary" is that a) Only students with jobs will respond and b) This includes ANY employment, not just legal employment.

Honestly, if Dayton's self-reported survey shows a median of $55k, that is really really bad.  That means there are many students making far under that who never responded to the survey. Also, like I said before, that includes ANY job.  I hate to break it to you, but I make significantly more than that now with only a Bachelors degree.

Spending $100k on law school only to make $55k is a dumb decision no matter how you cut it.

Lastly, I still stand by saying that TTTs and TTTTs should be shut down.

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Dude, it's not even "half bad."  It's FOURTH TIER.  Third tier grads struggle to find work, let alone fourth tier. 

Also, I really don't think that most grads get out WITH jobs, let alone making 50-60k. 

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I've been there so you can't say I've never seen it.  Also, you can talk it up all you like dude.  One nice building hardly makes it a great law facility.  Also, REALITY CHECK: IT IS 4th TIER FOR A REASON!!!

I hate to break it to you, but nobody worth working for is going to be heavily recruiting ppl. that got into dayton.  Their numbers are below the median for the LSAT for goodness sakes.

Go ahead though, spend 100k on a legal education to go make 30k doing some crappy job.  It's your life. 

I'm so tired of the "anybody can be a lawyer" arguments on here.  Sure, any jack ass can get into some toilet law school and earn a JD.  However, it's schools like Dayton and other 4th tier rat holes that give the legal profession a bum rap.

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There is no way you are going to "snag" a coveted federal district courtship with no relevant legal experience, no journal, and a Tier 2 school. 

I'm on Law Review (as my OP stated) and worked for a firm last summer...

It's still unlikely for a tier 2 grad to get a district court clerkship.  That's reality, unless you are willing to move to no man's land, and even then it will be tough.

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Current Law Students / Re: What do you feel you learned this year?
« on: April 17, 2008, 10:54:22 AM »
You thought you went to law school to learn things?  Silly 1L's hahaha.

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You definitely would have time to study at night when you aren't doing social activities.  Also, a summer associateship is only 12 weeks usually, not the entire summer.

However, before you even start law school, I wouldn't count on a biglaw SA.  The reality is that very few 1L's end up getting market paying summer gigs and you have no idea how your grades are going to pan out.  I think you should save that ego for after 1L lol.

Also, why can't you study now?  Gimme a break, your job is that demanding? 

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I'm considering taking my GMATs and was wondering if the typical summer associate position at a law firm after 1L will leave me enough time to attend a GMAT class in the evenings. I want to apply for a JD/MBA during 2L. Unfortunately studying during this summer doesn't seem like a possibility as I work evenings at my current job.

First off, what makes you so sure you will have a 1L summer associateship?  Where do you go to school?  Grades?

Second, why would you want a JD/MBA?

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Current Law Students / Re: What Law School Rankings Don't Say......
« on: April 16, 2008, 09:38:39 AM »
Let it go already.  Just because you went to a TTT and failed miserably at life doesn't mean others will do the same.  Go post this crap on the pre-law board already.

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Current Law Students / Re: TTT
« on: April 16, 2008, 09:31:47 AM »
Hair splitting aside:  The reality is that top law school graduates, ON AVERAGE, make significantly more than those that attended a TTT. 

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Current Law Students / Re: EXAMS' TIME: STUDY AS LESS AS YOU CAN
« on: April 15, 2008, 07:47:21 AM »
Back to the original purpose of this thread: As sad as it is, there often is no correlation between how hard one studies and their grades.  Sure, there is the whole "study smart, not hard" argument.  However, the reality is in law school you will often get grades you never anticipated after taking an exam.  It's the most arbitrary system ever in most law schools and it is just something one deals with.

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