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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 25, 2007, 11:24:43 AM »
A man can no more have his own private truth than can he have his own private sun and moon.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 25, 2007, 11:19:01 AM »
If knowledge means anything at all then it means nothing at all. This epistemic relativism leads to a radical skepticism that undermines the intelligibility of life. Even the most impoverished form of solipsism becomes indefensible on this view.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 25, 2007, 11:16:10 AM »
I suppose that depends on what "comma" means by experience. More to the point, on what grounds would you or "comma" deny or doubt my definition of knowledge (justified true belief) if classical propositional logic (laws of non-contradiction, excluded middle, identity) were not an item of absolute knowledge?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 25, 2007, 11:10:49 AM »
Are you saying there's no fact of the matter as to whether or not the earth is flat?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 25, 2007, 10:59:30 AM »
3) Why don't you give an example of where my definition fails?

1. To know something is to believe something that corresponds to one's experience.
2. There are no referents external to one's experience of the world.
3. Therefore to know something is simply to believe something.

So if you believe P and if P corresponds to your experience then you know P. If I believe ~P and if ~P corresponds to my experience then I know ~P. If P is the proposition "the earth is flat" then you know the earth is flat and I know the earth is not flat.

Please advise.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 24, 2007, 09:23:06 AM »
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To know something is to believe something that corresponds to one's experience. There are no referents external to one's experience of the world. Therefore to know something is simply to believe something.

1. To know something is to believe something that corresponds to one's experience.
2. There are no referents external to one's experience of the world.
3. Therefore to know something is simply to believe something.

(2) is a bit controversial and problematic, don't you think? (3) entails much absurdity. I hope you're not serious about this definition of knowledge.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 23, 2007, 06:21:34 PM »
"Justified true belief" is a nonsense phrase that collapses in on itself. In any case, no-one today believes that JTB -- even if it were intelligible -- approximates knowledge.

Do you have a better definition of knowledge than justified true belief?


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You doubt, so people should be skeptical.  Gotcha.

If my skepticism is warranted then, yes, others may or even should be skeptical as well.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 23, 2007, 12:23:05 PM »
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Not true, actually.

What is the classical meaning of knowledge if not justified true belief? Doesn't Plato suggest that knowledge is akin to justified true belief in his Theaetetus dialogue?

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The religious tend to be at odds with science over evolution.

Shouldn't they be? Though Scientific American et al. hope for our trust, I doubt very much that random mutation and natural selection are sufficient to completely explain the development of life from the simplest self-replicator to modern life. I am even more skeptical of the notion that the Archean earth produced so much as a nucleoside, never mind a self-replicator, in some purely natural and step-wise fashion.

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Carrots and movie theater popcorn oil both provide Vitamin A.  At least here Vitamin A is the same in both examples.

I should say instead that the philosophy of religion/theology and science each provide knowledge.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Science vs Religion
« on: June 23, 2007, 01:05:01 AM »
Justified true belief is the classical meaning of knowledge, and is what I mean when I use the term. Do you have a better definition? Are you also saying a religious text like the Bible conveys no knowledge? Please clarify.

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