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Current Law Students / Re: Is the era of biglaw over forever?
« on: June 16, 2009, 04:09:42 AM »
Yeah, I totally can see this happening if things don't pick up.

I'm not sure if the ABA or USNews keeps track of this stat.  FWIW, no one I knew at Emory had an online ug degree.

You don't need to know it word for word.  It's most important to remember any buzz words, because often, graders will skim and look for the important legal terms and buzz words.  So if you can formulate the rule so that the proper elements are there and the general rule is correct, then the fact that you didn't recite bar/bri's version verbatim isn't a problem.

And in fact, you can get the rule WRONG and still get points.  The bar examiners do want you to know the law, and you won't get as mnay points if you get it wrong.  But they also want you to be able to use logic and legal reasoning, so if you make something up that seems right, and you apply your made up rule in a way that makes sense and come up with at least a plausible answer, you'll get some credit for it (at least in most states).

Pursuing an LLM / Re: LLM in Criminal Law
« on: June 14, 2009, 06:43:57 AM »
Why would you want to get an LLM in crim law?  Do you want to teach?  Do you want to be a DA?  Do you want to go into the US Atty's office?

If you want to go into academia, then an LLM could be a consideration, although I think most law profs may tell you that you're better off going to get a PhD instead (many people have no clue as to what goes into getting an LLM, but the rigors of getting a PhD are known and respected).

But if you want to be a prosecutor, then don't bother.  You're better off saving the money to pay down your loans.  No DA I know would care about seeing this on a resume; they would rather see that you have experience in a courtroom.

Current Law Students / Re: I HATE MY SITUATION!!!
« on: June 13, 2009, 05:39:18 AM »
That is true for the OP - he/she would end up with 2 years.  I can't remember now, but the only catch there could be if the school required 2 consecutive years.  I remember the general 2 year policy, but now can't remember anything more specific than that.

Current Law Students / Re: I HATE MY SITUATION!!!
« on: June 12, 2009, 04:42:16 PM »
Uh you can't transfer after your first year.  He could go be a visiting student though I guess.


I know someone who transferred for just her third year. Definitely transferred. She isn't going to be a visiting student.

Hmmm...not possible?  Every school that I've ever head of requires at least 2 years worth of credits in order to issue a diploma.  It's pretty standard. Was she doing a joint degree program? 

Current Law Students / Re: law firm interview in early august ...
« on: June 10, 2009, 06:55:52 PM »
Some firms still insist they'll still hire some people.  The theory is they don't want any talent gaps, where they end up with no junior associates, which will lead to no midlevel associates a few years down the road, and no senior associates for a generation.

On one hand, it's stupid to hire people if there's no work to do (and trust me, there still isn't all that much work to do).  On the other hand, if you think about the ramifications of all the 1st and 2nd year associates who have been laid off and now can't find any other work, combined with the lack of hiring for incoming classes, and it's easy to see that the predictions that Biglaw is now "broken" may have a grain of truth to them.  A pyramid scheme can't run if the bottom layers of the pyramid are removed.

I've taken the Bar in Georgia and Colorado.

I took Barbri in Georgia and passed.
I did not take Barbri in Colorado and passed. (I didn't remember anything and I had to take the multistate again!)

For the essay portion of the BAR EXAM, you only need to memorize the class notes from BarBri. That's all I did in Colorado. For the Multistate multiple choice, all you need to study are the BarBri class notes and the Conviser mini-review. For the MPT, you need practice tests to work on.

You definitely can get by with the materials. BUT you HAVE to have the class notes.

I'm not sure about terminology here.

When people say "Barbri class notes" are you referring to the Barbri in class workbook with the fill in the blanks?  Or, just notes generally.

People mean the fill-in-the-blank workbook.

Job Search / Re: State District Court Clerkships
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:03:33 PM »
Do you have any other options at this point?  Because it's better to be employed in a position where you'll meet lots of local attorneys with a boss who may be able to give you a great reference rather than sitting on your butt still looking for work because you turned down a job that wasn't "prestigious" enough.

Current Law Students / Re: Awful 1L year
« on: June 08, 2009, 04:03:24 AM »
Define "awful."  Considering most schools even in the T2 have like 90%+ people having jobs 9 months from graduation I'm sure you will get something.  It just might not be that fat 6 figure job you were hoping for.

If you believe those employment stats, I have a bridge to sell you...

That 90% number includes people who, after not finding legal work for 8 months and desperately need some cash to avoid being evicted, go out and get that job at TGIFridays.  Or next year, it will include people who got min wage jobs working at their school.  The schools bill it as a great service they're providing for their grads in this terrible economy, but in reality, it's geared toward protecting that all important employment stat that so many people fall for.

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