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You definitly make some good points, but the fact remains that UChicago still places significantly better than UIUC -- which is especially important if you don't graduate in the top half of your class (or even top quarter).

Also, one thing you have to take into account about Chicago is the faculty. It is arguably the best faculty in the country. Yes, Yale, Harvard and Stanford also have claims to this, but, in the same breath, so does Chicago. I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to argue that about UIUC.

Also, Yiplong's interest can change while in law school. It certainly happens. If he decides while in law school that he has an interest in clerking, for example, not only will he have better options comming from Chicago, he would have significantly better options. If he goes to UIUC he is closing many doors, and the same cannot be said for Chicago or, to a lesser extent, Northwestern.

I was as anti-smoking ban as anyone when it was first introduced in NYC, in part because I generally agree that the government should not be in the business of legislating morality (be it restictive blue laws, cabaret licensing, gambling, stem cells, gay marriage, abortion, whatever).  If people want to waste their life savings at a casino, that's their business as far as I'm concerned.

However, like Goodgal I have come to love the no-smoking in bars, although it does make me a traitor to say so.  Imagine not having to do laundry every time you go out!  It's awesome.


You'll be happy to know that a no-smoking ban is either about to pass or going to pass in Philadelphia! I don't think I'm a huge fan of it, but maybe my mind will change like yours did..

General Off-Topic Board / Re: I'm back
« on: July 26, 2006, 11:19:40 AM »
The infamous Towelie is back. I've made more comebacks than Cher.

it looks like you have evaded the Towelie-ban



General Off-Topic Board / Re: Going Bald
« on: July 26, 2006, 01:42:37 AM »
The second I start going bald (if I do <<crosses fingers>>), I'm going to shave my head. If, after doing so, I discover I have a weird shaped skull (you know, a weird dent or something), I will grow back my hair but keep it short. Hopefully this is a moot post and I will never have to resort to either measure  ;)

One thing about the $180,000 in debt: it likely won't be that high. Figure at the very worst you will only get a firm job your second summer. That's about $30,000 in income and, after taxes and whatnot, you will likely have about $20,000 left over which can take the place of loans. Given that, you are looking more like $160,000 worth of debt.

Also, Chicago students have a great shot at landing 1L summer employment. If you do this, you are likely looking at another $20,000 that you can use instead of loans. This would bring your debt down to $160,000.

And then, if you are interested in working in Chicago there is a chance that you can work part-time at the firm you are going to work at during the week. You might be able to do this 2L, but 3L seems more reasonable for doing this. If you land a job like this, you can expect between $40-$60 per hour, for as many hours as you want to work.

Take Chicago and run.

I haven't read much of this thread, mostly just the title, but I don't consider smoking trashy. A lot of my friends smoke. Luckily, I don't (which is definitly a good thing health wise and for my wallet). I don't look down on people who smoke. I don't believe them when they tell me they are going to quit, but I definitly don't look down on them.

General Off-Topic Board / I'm back
« on: July 26, 2006, 01:31:23 AM »
The infamous Towelie is back. I've made more comebacks than Cher.

If you are an NJ resident who are attending a NJ law school in the fall, first let me apologize. Just kiddin.  ;)

Anyways, if you haven't picked out a private lender, definitly look into the NJCLASS loan. The interest rate is fixed and is between 6.4-6.8% depending on your credit and whether you plan on paying the interest while in law school or deferring it until after you graduate.

As far as the credit requirement, it is surprisngly low! I got approved with less than stellar credit (trust me on this) without a co-signer. You are basically approved right as you apply.

I think the NJCLASS loans have an origination fee of a little over 2%, but it's nothing major. Anyways, definitly worth a look if you have a connection to the Garden State.

University of Chicago is one of the premier, most elite law schools in the country. Their faculty is absolutely amazing, the students are all incredibly bright, and the academic experience is reputed as being one of the best out there.

The same cannot be said for UIUC or Northwestern, even though they are both fine schools.

University of Chicago will open doors the other schools will not, period.

Congrats on your choices! Good luck with the decision.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official "I'm Going to Penn!" Thread
« on: July 25, 2006, 10:37:50 PM »
Hey guys..

That's right, I'm back! I'm moving to Philly on Sunday, have sold my car, and am getting all packed up. It's pretty exciting, a little scary, and I hope I am doing everything right regarding the financial aid process (I don't want to get to orientation and find out I didn't sign some for and am thus screwed!)

Anyways, I was wondering when most of you are getting to Philly. I didn't get to go to Admitted Students Weekend or a Penn Preview, so I have yet to meet anyone and would love to meet some people even before orientation starts (even the pre-orientation orientation events).

I'll be moving into my apartment on August 1st, in Rittenhouse, so, if anyone wants to meet up anytime after that, definitly let me know!

Also, is anyone else doing the Law Preview that's happening at Penn? Since I am literally doing nothing until orientation starts and they were offering a scholarship I signed up for it.. so hopefully it is at least worthwhile.

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