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My advice - don't try to be at the top of the class. :)  I was honestly more concerned about getting put on probation all year, and otherwise was trying not to put a lot of pressure on myself about grades.  However, I ended up being top 5%.  I didn't plan for it or expect it at all, so my methodology could probably only be classified as "accidental."  :)

Right on.  I was kind of in a similar boat, just trying to stay top 80% to keep my scholarship.  After first semester exams, which I felt good but not great about, I'd told myself that I'd be happy with top half--I was top 20% after first semester.  After second semester exams, which I felt great about, I was hoping I'd improve slightly upon my first semester grades, and I ended up with such a kick-ass 2nd semester that I'm now top 5% overall.  I just tried to focus on learning the material, not worrying about what grades would result from my efforts.  Worrying/stressing is so counterproductive.

i have to agree with this i'm a 0L but i've always tackled school like that and plan to continue in law school. don't worry about being at the top of the class. just make sure you know the material and do the best that you can. 9 times out of 10 you will look up at the end and be in the lead pack. don't let yourself get lazy and don't concern yourself with what everybody else is doing. i've always found that people who are constantly talking about how well they're doing are lying. i know very few people who get stellar grades that go around telling everyone about it. i usally just say i did alright. at the end of the semester all the "gotta be tops in the class" people will ask you what's your trick. when you say i just did the best i could and didn't worry about anybody else, they always have this confused look on their face.

gunners prepare for class people at the top of the class prepare for the exam.

Um, there's someone there who went to my school too (T80-something). That's why you shouldn't listen to people who say you'll never get a big law job if you're not at a T14 school...


Current Law Students / Re: Loans?
« on: July 03, 2007, 03:37:03 PM »
yeah i get the col vs coa stuff, whether his numbers are off or not his point is still valid, my roomate at the time (had way less than 19k a year to live off) and he still invested and survived. if the guy lives like a student it's totally doable particularly in the south where you can get a decent apartment for under 700 bucks a month. will he have 10K to slap down in a CD no but if he can squirrel away 2500 it's still worth it.

Current Law Students / Re: Loans?
« on: July 03, 2007, 01:35:07 PM »
maybe i misunderstood but i think that's what he was saying. after he pays tuition, he wants to figuere out what he could live on and invest the xtra, at least that's what it sounded like to me.

Current Law Students / Re: Loans?
« on: July 01, 2007, 05:18:18 PM »
my best friend did that when he was going through university of maryland school of law. he took it a little further though. he paid his tuition budgeted out his rent, food and misc. expenses (which for a single guy/girl shouldn't be a lot) and put half of what was left over in a CD and live off the rest. he cut back somewhat on going out but not to the point where he sat in the house all the time. when he graduated he took the money and made his first loan repayment for like 8Gs straigh out of the gate. if you're disciplined enough not to spend spend spend i think you'll be fine.

Current Law Students / Re: Non traditional students.......
« on: July 01, 2007, 05:12:45 PM »
I'm 34 and will be starting my 1L this fall as a part time evening student.  Still trying to decide if I will quit work to keep up with studying or not.  Any advice would be appreciated to those going that route. 

you and i are the same age my friend, or will be in 3 days. i quit work so that i can keep up with studying. i reduced my debt as much as possible and managed to save up a nice little piece of loot. nothing to carry me through 3 years but enough for 1 or 2 very light rainy days  :). my budget will be tight (i have car note and insurance and I was not able to completely pay off my credit card but i put a decent dent into it). i'm sure i will have to rob peter to pay paul more than a few times, but i've been broke before. also i know this is jumping ahead a little but law students are paid pretty well for their summer efforts, if you have the discipline to save you can stack yourself a little cushion over the summer. if you're one of the lucky ones to secure a firm position for 1L they get paid ok as well, though not as well as 2Ls. everyone i know who continued to work full-time planned on using their law degree at their present job, so grades weren't as much of an issue. they could just pass graduate and be ok. look at it like this, if you make your best effort do everything you possibly can to get the best grades possible and come up a little short, eeh you did the best you could and you can adjust and do better. you can probably live with that better than you could knowing that you could've been in the top whatever % if you didn't have to work. i will have the benefit of GI Bill money for my first year so I have a little more wiggle room. i understand you're situation is probably a little different. so i would say if you're really worried about finances sit down work out a budget and see if you can make it through your first year. after that you will know what works for you how much study time you need etc. and you can go back to work after that if you so desire. bottom line is we don't want to go into all this debt, and then not be get the job we want because of a job we don't want. end of my $.02...good luck

i had planned on being very active joining organizations of interest etc, but i've been advised that 1Ls usually don't have time for a lot of extra curriculars and that they aren't really expected to participate until after the first year. any truth to this? did any of you top []%ers participate in extra curriculars. I'm interested in entertainment law where connections are everything so I'm worried about not doing anything with the entertainment law society until 2L, law school is only 3 years after all.

Current Law Students / Re: Non traditional students.......
« on: June 22, 2007, 08:17:30 PM »
I will be 34 when I begin 1L, i'm a vet as well, although not a war vet per say. I spent most of my time hunting terrorists in sandy places and had to duck a bullet or two from  time to time i'm not stressing law school at all i know it will be hard work but hard work ain't nothin'

well im not worried about everybody else but if something works it works you know  :)...but i understand i'll probably just have to figure out what works for me and hit my stride. just want to make sure im on the right rack.....thanks for the input

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