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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: US News Not Leaked, Released
« on: March 27, 2007, 01:18:15 PM »
Can somebody post a screenshot showing the whole T14?

If its been done already, can somebody link me there?

Oh yeah, Penn is overrated, NYU is a bit overrated, but it is on the up and up. Its rep scores are pretty strong now and will be improving. They now exceed UMich and Boalt.

Law School Admissions / Re: NYU Scholarships?
« on: March 21, 2007, 11:41:18 AM »
I got the email at precisely 10:21am this morning. I had given up cuz they said they would notify one month before the interview...the interview that now no longer takes place.

As for my IP background, beyond an BS in EE not much (uh-oh, shouldn't have said that). I'm coming out of UG. I have some work and research experience during the summers, my EE GPA is pretty high (as you can see on my LSN), and I think my 500 word essay was decent.

Law School Admissions / Re: NYU Scholarships?
« on: March 21, 2007, 08:47:43 AM »
Got an email saying I'm a finalist for the Intellectual Property Scholarship.

This year, they aren't doing interviews for this particular program. Just going to notify applicants in mid-April. Worries me a bit, basically they are just going to analyze mine and everyone else's 500 word essay for a month (again, since they already reviewed them to make finalist choices).

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Just visited NYU
« on: March 20, 2007, 06:37:50 PM »
Johnny, I recommend asking students at UVA what they think of NYU. Some will be honest with you and tell you outright to go to NYU, or they'll say something like, "Ooh, that's a tough decision." This happened to me at all of the ASWs I've attended so far. I expect when I ask NYU students what they think of my non-HYSCCN choices, none of them will tell me to even think twice about other schools.
My take on NYU is that it's in the best location of any school in the top 14. You can't put a price on being able to step outside D'Agostino or Mercer and seeing everything you could ever want to do within a short walk. $180k for three years of this experience seems like a lot of money now, but when you're in your 30s and you've made a lot of bank, and you've got at least $30k coming in from investments each year, you'll look back on that $180k as being money well spent.

I agree that most likely this will happen (in fact, talking to CCN students, they all say they are clearly superior to lower T14's and without massive money offers, don't consider them).

However, I think its self-selection. The ppl who ultimately chose CCN (or HYS) are the types who go to the best school they can and were in the same situations in previous years (and of course, chose the best school). Also, it seems like all these student ambassadors, and those who go to ASW to meet admits, like their school. Hence, I doubt they'll say, "I think Umich has a much better social vibe, something to keep in mind over our CCN school".

Law School Admissions / Re: Are Columbia/NYU $90,000 better than GULC?
« on: March 16, 2007, 02:35:23 PM »
I'm in the same boat (90k dean's scholarship at GULC) but with Chi instead of CLS. The fact that good gov't and international law jobs are so hard to come by is turning me off to GULC (that would be the primary motivation for going there). Also, its not like I'm set on that.

Does the bottom half of GULC struggle to find good biglaw jobs? That's kind of a big sticking point for me, not necessarily 50th percentile, but how screwed will you be at GULC if your grades aren't so great? Will you actually have trouble finding a good law firm job? Coming from CCN, median still gets the pick of most firms (except the most selective) and bottom 25% isn't struggling to find market jobs either.

From what I've heard from the lawyers I've talked to, your grades in law school don't matter at all after your first job, but where you've worked and where you went to law school still matter.

As a 2L, I have to agree with this. If you are a BigLaw kind of guy, your law school has an impact on your partnership prospects.
In terms of the OPs hypo, I would have to say it is possible but not that likely. Kirkland has a great rep but NY firms like Skadden can afford to be extra picky and may not care. 
In that this is the prelaw board, I will assume you are not in the top 10% and remind you how very stupid it is to anticipate your future class rank.
That being said, if you are top 10% at Kent after your 1L, you will be able to transfer to Chicago/Michigan/NW (if you are staying midwest) which will let you interview directly with Skadden/Whatever Vault 20 Sweatshop You Desire.

How important is the bolded quote? I would imagine your actual ability/performance far out-trumps your school's cache (10 years out when you're up for partnership consideration), but any edge you can get is useful.

Also the school does indirectly affect your job prospects after your 1st job. Top schools tend to do better at clerkships and top firm placement. The "prestige" of your 1st firm will affect your lateralling options.

I'm going to at the 2nd ASW and look forward to it.

Just wondering, though, not to kill the UMich lovefest here or anything, but was there anything you guys didn't like about UMich or the ASW during the visit? (besides the 0L clerkship gunner)

Law School Admissions / Re: Feb. LSAT takers up 16.7% from last cycle
« on: March 10, 2007, 07:30:34 PM »
Be warned next cycle applicants!

Law School Admissions / Feb. LSAT takers up 16.7% from last cycle
« on: March 10, 2007, 04:54:24 PM »
and 1.9% for the overall testing year cycle

Thank god my cycle's almost done...hopefully this doesn't affect my holds/undecided, but then I'm not too hopeful on those anyways.

I guess reasons could include any one or combinations of: 1) the new ABA policy really does make a difference, 2) we're about to have another rise in law school apps, after a brief drought. Also, its possible some ppl are afraid of the new LSAT format coming next June, hence taking the LSAT before the format changes.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: I'm scared of UChicago
« on: March 08, 2007, 09:28:42 PM »
While I'm fully prepared to be the least effectively knowledgeable person there, I'm really no longer worried about the "intensity" concerns that are usually thrown around. So far every Chicago poster on this board, as well as the one who called me, as well as the ones I spoke to when I visited, and the ones I observed while visiting, seemed fairly laid back (and thats saying something about the 2L that called me this week, since she mentioned their finals start next week).

The 1L who called me couldn't have been more chill. Really, almost too informal and relaxed for my liking, and talked a lot about the great social scene at Chicago.

She did complain that law school is hard, but of course this complaint isn't unique to Chi.

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