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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 25, 2015, 12:01:27 PM »
The battle between associated press lawsuits for foia and the state department/clinton/Obama camp is fascinating to watch.  I'm not a fan of the 4th estate so I am secretly pulling for the state dept/Obama administration/clinton machine to beat the press and not give up anything and win their war against the press forcing transparency. 

I think the press is one of the most powerful systems in our country and nobody wins over them.  Even when the press get it wrong the mea culpa is usually a tiny retraction.   

But if anyone can beat the press it is the clinton machine...I wish them luck.

The problem now is that the inspectors general have joined the fight for clintons server and soon the dept of justice(obamas proxy) are going to be involved further escalating the war for information.  So this is a non partisan battle.

I hope hillary keeps her server till the end but turning it over my be the only thing that will save her political career...

Battle on!! Don't let the fourth estate win!!!

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 25, 2015, 09:58:17 AM »
Lol. We are not going to get to a convention nomination situation.  Clinton has been in the public eye for decades and with negative polls and serious character questions plus potential criminal allegations she will never be able to re convince people that she could be the leader of the free world---deleter of the free world maybe.   

So I say, better call gore.  He could be the new inspiration for clinton disenchantment but get him up and running by Christmas.

Good luck to the clinton diehards, though. 

Denial is tough to endure.

FYI. Trump won't make it either.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 22, 2015, 07:28:03 PM »
Wow clinton tanking in swing states.  Better recheck the calculus as Obama would say and......

Better call Gore.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 18, 2015, 11:12:13 AM »
Dang Cin, you really have done a comeback since the multi year break. I take it you started posting in LSAT prep and then said "1L is Hell, see you suckaz after the bar exam??"

Either way, glad to have a fellow resident in this ghost town of ours. I think they killed Julie while you were gone (praise be the Jesus)

Thank you infant 8 one,  this board rustles and creaks like a dilapidated old Victorian hidden on a mountain amidst the overgrown ivy.  And I have a wicked sense of humor.  I read many of that dude, Julie ferns posts and oh what a little peepeed shill he was.  I read some of the counter posts to his nonsense and a few of them totally schooled that tool and made him look foolish. You are one of them.

I have a feeling that he was a law school prep test salesman who had too much time on his little typing fingers.  Im somewhat glad he's gone but looks like there were some epic arguments to get that guy some gospel, so to speak. 

So let's continue to have fun with this board.

I waited two over two years to respond because I found it to be extremely funny( which it still is) (to me and some others) hope you found some small humor in it.  After all comedy is about timing. And, you are right, I was busy.

Thank you and let's have fuuuuuunnnnnn!!!!  But seriously, not in howard dean fashion, but let's get daffy!

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 18, 2015, 12:06:31 AM »
I think that if Sanders does town hall meetings throughout late august early September in Allendale,  richland, barnwell, darlington, calhoun,  chester,  chesterfield, williamsberg, sumpter, and richland, in South Carolina he could make in roads with that state.  And call it a two week travel blitz.  Think about it if he wins Iowa and the granite state then has a good percentage show in South Carolina it will be another fair  political tale...déjà vous all over again.   

But what could really help his campaign is if he brings his northern accented message to 4 counties in Alabama--Montgomery, Sumter , Macon, and bullock, again all town hall meeting type of setting county fairs on the weekend?

This would be of course if lower funded progressive democrats can really get motivated with a truly open message, public speech and then streamlined  question and answer tour.  Defining sanders as a very accessible candidate. 

They will have to Pepper in trips to Michigan and Louisiana.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 17, 2015, 09:02:28 PM »
So, I think when we talk about enthusiasm we can say that it's like energy; politicians like howard dean, Barak Obama and Ronald Reagan all had the enthusiasm factor.  And like energy, political enthusiasm has a duality.  Energy has a potential factor and a kinetic factor.  Enthusiasm for a politician can be measured by crowds flocking to hear the message or the potential factor--- the trick is the kinetic part of enthusiasm and barak obamas souls going to the polls as voter turnout is the butter from the milk.   
Dean had the enthusiasm as well with huge crowds coming to hear him- then he went negative in his campaign with gephardt and that was a crucial mistake.  He lost the potential enthusiasm and didn't get the souls to the polls so he failed with the kinetic part of the equation.   
Reagan also had the huge crowd interest and like Obama he got not only souls to the polls but he managed to turn blue pennsylvania into a red state by getting democrats to come out and vote for him.  Those were the Reagan democrats who have nothing to do with Nixon as some think.  Most Reagan democrats are Catholics who came out to support Reagan in 1980.  For evidence simply look at counties like erie, pa. 

Dixiecrats are another topic altogether.

Enthusiasm is sanders key right now, as he has huge crowd appeal, a captivating message, an authenticity and he will not go negative.  Sanders has the potential energy in his campaign and quite a buzz--- the question is can he get the souls to the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire.

If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire he will be like McCarthy in 68 bouncing the incumbent, LBJ about of the race.  Hillary could conceivably stand in as the incumbent.  This got rf Kennedy into that race.  Hillary could get bounced but more than likely will keep burning that war chest throughout the rest primaries to no avail.  But then........

So I'm watching to see when and if al gore enters the race or Biden. 
Gore or Biden would be like Kennedy. 

Let's face it while most progressives supporting sanders would begrudgingly cast a vote for clinton in the general if sanders doesn't make it past the first two primaries she will not have nearly enough kinetic energy to get the souls to the polls.  Liberal democrats may decide to sit this one out with no horse in
the race.

And, lol lol lol, if clinton is the nominee you can bet that the entire right wing of the republican party will not miss an election to keep clinton out of the Oval Office... Lol, cal it  " reverse enthusiasm."

So, for SOME candidates enthusiasm and upward trends in enthusiasm.  Crowd interest and then actual cast votes is a major factor already.  Don't be foolish to think it is a trivial matter. 
Reagan and Obama had the enthusiasm factor and both played it well.  Sanders could as well.

Keep thinking about it and of course we all know it is way too soon to call this one but it is fun to discuss, this should be obvious.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 12, 2015, 08:21:06 PM »
"but it contains links to the individual polls themselves. "

If you look at the subtabs of the CNN poll, you can see that what Breitbart breathlessly reported was, in fact, so-called Democratic independents shifting support to Sanders.

If you believe that people that are currently supporting Sanders won't vote for Clinton in the general, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

The sun will rise, the sun will set, I will have lunch, and the election won't come down to so-called independents, or loss of enthusiasm (really, do you remember 2012?) or any of those other factors. It just gives people pointless things to talk about in the meantime.

Lol. So what WILL it "come down to" then? It's not a loss of enthusiasm it's who HAS the enthusiasm.  I think the enthusiasm that Reagan and Obama stirred up was what won it for them.  Remember the Reagan democrats?   He got dems to come out to the polls for him rather than sit out the election.  Now that is enthusiasm.  Barak Obama nearly all of the black vote.  Now that is enthusiasm.  It will be a major factor in the general.  I'm not writing with confidence; I just want you to think about it.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 12, 2015, 08:07:26 PM »
It is really quite simple.  At the too soon to tell moment we have fragmentation.  This election will come down to who garners the most enthusiasm and like howard dean and Barack Obama right now only sanders is lighting any fires.  Contrasting and most interesting is the lack of enthusiasm on Clintons side.  As an independent  I can tell you  I don't like the Bush/Clinton option.  Clintons ethics are damaging and Bush's connection to iraq is problematic.  Don't know how other independents feel but the "inevitability" moniker creates a sour choice to most of the independents I know.

Ask yourself this? If both pubs and dems are divided down the middle do you really think enthusiasm will be there for two families that have been creeping around the wings of the Oval Office since the 90's???

Also, I think the pulse of the electorate is still charging toward something newer and different--we have obama to thank for that.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 11, 2015, 09:13:44 PM »
When I mention fragmentation I think that while one candidate has the poll numbers another will have the enthusiasm and while the Democratic Party was fragmented during the 2008 primary campaign it eventually coalesced around Obama.   Clinton began with great poll numbers but the enthusiasm was pumping up around Obama; he then began to gain in the polls.  The Republican Party is not only fragmented among different factions but divided among the 8 candidates running. Poll numbers are muddled and there is NO obvious enthusiasm among any one candidate.

Again, this will level out after a long primary season for the pubs slogging it out but the dems fragmentation could break if the gap closes between Clinton and Sanders or it too could level out say if Al Gore enters the race or Biden

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 05, 2015, 08:54:26 PM »
The fragmentation is within the Democratic Party and "dueling progressive agendas"  and in the Republican Party between civil libertarianism and establishment conservatism.

I essentially agree about the basis of the Democratic split, but I think the Republican split I far more damaging to their overall chances.

The Republican split is at least a three way between establishments (Bush), libertarians (Paul), and religious conservatives (Huckabee, Santorum, etc).

 I would argue that at this point the Republicans are in a real bind, a Catch-22. Candidates can't win the nomination or the general election without the evangelicals stepping up and voting, but they're doomed with independents if they appear too evangelical themselves.

The Republicans have allowed this far right element of the party to wield too much influence for too long, and now it's biting them on the a$$.

Even though I'm a Democrat, I hope they figure it out and find a way to be nationally competitive. I don't want there to be one party rule for the next few decades. Competition is good for political parties, it helps minimize corruption. California is a one party state, and look where it got us.

I think that the fragmentation of the Democratic Party is going to lead to a serious lack of enthusiasm at the polls.  Obama dems, and the national Democratic Party;  establishment dems and Reagan/Bill Clinton dems, and the levels of progressives who support people like e. Warren, b Deblasio and b. Sanders. If someone with a true progressive populist agenda wins the nomination then enthusiasm will be up but I think that if clinton makes it to the primaries and wins the nomination she will face the tsunami horde of the entire right wing of the Republican Party.   Then we will have as we independents like to call the "4 year shot"'s what the democrats had in 2008 and 2009.   The dems have a strange dynamic this time around with clinton/ reminds me of when the pubs ran bob Dole).  and the pubs have the same dynamic they always have but there are not 2 candidates to watch---there are many candidates to watch.

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