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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 18, 2015, 03:24:00 PM »
I'll follow up later.  Not sure why you dont find me credible? Or incredible for that matter.  This isn't spin or partisanship playing because we are talking an actual federal criminal investigation not
Yes, i think Bernie will win nh and Iowa---is that partisanship? Seriously? Is it?

I'll follow up later on but here is something factual and tangible-- not spin.   
Check this out future lawyers --   
FBI IS investigating Hillary Clinton and this is part of what she faces.
18 USC 798 and 18 USC 1924
Nixon shooting himself  in the foot was political theatre and today, perhaps by the end of the month we will have witnessed some awesome political theatre as Clinton goes down.

Come on guys perhaps I'm cynical but just dont want to admit that Clinton downfall is more engaging than trumps clownshow?

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 18, 2015, 09:26:35 AM »
8? Bernie dancers is a Democrat.  Unless you truly think he's a socialist in which case you'd be slightly mistaken and he's going to win new Hampshire. Maybe Iowa.  Hardly partisan.

And loki, you have given the impression that you think Clinton is a sure thing.  You introduced your
"big player" maybe coming out to hedge your bet, no?

And the very funny part is that presently not in an echo chamber, whatever that means, but in reality the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation regarding compromised classified and top secret info Clinton knowingly mishandled.

Loki, you are aware that the FBI dont investigate civil matters right?

Unless, you think there I no FBI investigation going on?

You are aware of the FBI investigation right?

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 17, 2015, 08:17:10 PM »
Nope. Now, if you wanted to make a case that a drawn-out accumulation of innuendo

Now, like Clinton you are changing your story.  First Clinton was a sure thing--even gambling odds ---)she IS going to be the one nominated.  Now you introduce the caveat of "innuendo". 

Well innuendo or no innuendo it is very enjoyable watching Clinton go down. The thing about status quo is that every so often the koolaid wears off and like the FBI confiscating nixons private correspondence followed by his subsequent resignation change follows  happenstance.

Nixon didnt need a legal team either he was bread right up until he was toast. Lol

Loki? Dont you know that when the FBI investigates a politician it doesn't end well for the politician? You seem cerebral enough to get this.
Dont believe me?  See what bob Woodward said about Clinton's chances of success.

It is fun to watch because the vise tightens every day.  Republicans with trump is nowhere near as interesting---) they have a long way to go and unfortunately for establishment democrats the  writing is on Hillary Clinton's firewall.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 17, 2015, 01:31:30 PM »
....i hear crickets and tumbkeweeds now--- lmao.

So, what was that about the FBI investigating Nixon, ER I mean Clinton?

Just heard Woodward say the sane thing I was writing three weeks ago...

Drip drip drip mrs Clinton.  This slow implosion is fun to watch. 

One thing is for sure. Barring a Republican part that shoots itself in the foot. We are not getting a Democrat in the Whitehouse.
Clinton is legal toast. 

Where is the home brew server now?

This is awesome and hilarious.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 09, 2015, 08:59:30 AM »
The investigation into Hillary means jack. Almost all politicians have that stuff happen to them on some level (most often RAPE, full on RAPE) but they do just fine if they have the momentum behind them anyways (the rapists like it from behind I guess) She'll be fine. 100% chance of that.

Even the ones who are "punished" are a joke. Look at her husband, or Olly North. All joke punishments. All still had careers after that too.

Lmao.  It is a joke. That's the point. Even today hillarys right hand man huma abedin is in trouble.  Hillary, huma and her lawyer are all going to be under oath that they turned over all classified documents as ordered by a federal judge.  It is amazing how deep it gets as the summer wears on.

I guess you guys aren't following or don't follow news from legal,  business, political periodicals.  That's ok. You'll catch on soon enough.

"Hillary Clinton's  exempting herself from the practices imposed on the 24,000 Foreign Service officers and Civil Service workers she oversaw has led to resentment from some former subordinates. And by holding onto the official emails until the State Department was prompted by Congress to ask for them, and then deciding for herself which to preserve, Mrs. Clinton may have provoked mistrust even as she asks American voters to send her to the Oval Office."

These emails contain mucho highly classified info that hillaryo  didnto think she'd get caught holding...but she did. 

Small time mishandling of classified info is a criminal punishable offense.

Nixon thought he could get away with his private communications set up and it BURNED him---he was inevitably going to retain the presidency.  He did not.

Hillary is in that same drip drip boat---and she can't use "national security" reasons to hide behind.

Don't believe me.  That too makes this funny that you guys don't care to see it. It's okay.

This is not Whitewater rafting or lying about a cigar job. Lol

Watching hillarys downfall is sad but inevitable.  It makes for great political theatre

Just like tricky male private part nixon

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 07, 2015, 07:54:35 PM »
Even a more quirky somewhat ironic twist in the clown car debate was Marco Rubio's sober self confidence and charisma.  The younger politician in the room seemed to be the adult above the fray.

He even attacked hillary clinton on her duplicity and policy--not a character assasination.

He was the only good thing I saw out of the so called debate which ironically again had quite a national audience.

I haven't made up my mind who I'm picking yet but so far Bernie sanders has honesty a real genuineness and a straightforward record to back it up.   Some of the republicans have to do a little more till I find a favorite in their group. 

As an independent we like a good spoiler to an all out one party congress; but we are fickle and two branches of government with one party controlling both can be a release point for beurocratic gridlock---at least for one term of a presidency.

Sorry trump and clinton don't cut the mustard.  If you don't believe me check out the numbersAnd I think most polling of independents don't have us favoring clinton or trump.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 07, 2015, 07:39:06 PM »
Lol jeez man I guess  hyperbole is too abstract for some people. 
I'm not "betting" literally but I think the more interesting dynamic in the primary race is not democrat/republican/hillary clinton supporter Donald trump---he's a funny bit player---it's the FBI investigation into hillary clinton regarding keeping and destroying classified info. 

Here is why, we have not had such a super high profile politician fall from grace in a drip drip fashion since the FBI began its preliminary investigation of Richard Nixon and he denied any wrong doing up until he had to quit the presidency.   

With hillary clinton, regardless of the actual past and present odds on she becomes president that is all going down the toilet in a drip drip fashion...

If you remember the history of nixons ultimate downfall he was great until he got caught--just like poor hillary.

So, trying to convince people that the trump story is more compelling then hillary clintons inevitable "ness" turning into "not likely at all" is short shrift.

Let me give you an example: I cannot wait until Monday to hear new stuff about hillarys secret server and what the FBI will discover; after that inane supposed debate with trump looking like an ass I could care less about him.  He was mildly predictable and somewhat boring and a buzzkill compared to the hype around his off the cuff remarks. 

Sorry I'm a cynic and Clinton's nixonian parallel and fall from grace is VERY compelling.

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 05, 2015, 08:32:51 PM »
Ok, 8 I think I get it now.

Isn't Donald Trump a democrat? 

His campaign is more of a stunt by a media craving publicity hound.  He will be around for a while contrasting his train wreck campaign with hillary clintons daily train wreck. 
The other less known swill look a bit more serious, trustworthy, and soberly competent.

Think of how much more Donald will make after a run at the presidency.

Meanwhile I think that taking bets about trump is interesting but the real money should be on hillary clintons fate and outcome? 

She might face some real legal trouble and handling classified info is not taken lightly.

She has so much money she could still run and fight the charges.  But if she loses security clearance she'll be like Nixon considering using the army to keep the presidency. Lol

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 05, 2015, 03:29:22 PM »
Still not sure what you mean, 8?  Token plus Uncle Tom?

Is hillary an Uncle Tom?  Is she token plus Uncle Tom?

Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: July 29, 2015, 04:34:42 PM »
 No need to wait til the primaries to discuss this further because with the clinton/trump drama there are interesting and fun things every week if not every couple of days.

I understand your token/sheep theory but Obama, while being the "token" in the last two presidential election IS a kickass speech giver---charismatic and engaging.  His speeches and a good swing state map plan got him elected.  If tokens/sheep were the answer Jesse Jackson should have been elected years ago when he ran, right?

Let me ask you this... If the republicans nominate Fiorina and Biden becomes the nominee because clinton was forced out and or Sanders is the nominee do you think that the token female would be automatically elected?

What if Marco Rubio is the nominee against Biden?  Will his "token" Spanish presence be the deciding factor over Biden or Sanders?  How would your token theory work with those setups, 8?

Ps if clinton is under investigation for destroying top secret, classified info she will have to legally deal with it and she will be disgraced like petraeus and Nixon....she doesn't need to deal drugs to Cosby....that was funny, man.

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