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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 25, 2015, 03:49:11 PM »
"Nor will it."

This is what makes no sense.  Mishandling of classified info shouldn't be difficult to grasp; we are just waiting to see in what manner this is prosecuted.  Lets see what the FBI has to say when its done with its investigation.  I guess loki, you already know what they will find.  Amazing.

John Deutsch and sandy Berger compromised classified emails and were just as sloppy as Clinton.  Their cases began with an FBI investigation. The similarities particularly of the former with Clinton's situation are remarkable.

Neither though, had their own unprotected home server.

I guess I dont understand why you don't even see the possibility that Clinton mishandled classified info. Which is a serious crime.  If you could explain why you are so sure she did nothing illegal I think it would explain your point. Do you just feel that she is telling the truth? Help me out.

You must have thought it was strange when they began their investigation since Clinton did nothing wrong.

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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 25, 2015, 01:04:17 AM »
Older irish american from pennsylvania and mercurial did I say older carrying on the Obama legacy.
Hillary clinton representing the older Scranton, pennsylvania incompetent yet foreboding a pasture of an entitlement democratic establishment sheep herder straight out of Austin powers. Or some early nineties soviet tank inspector.
Then the extremely older Jewish American New Yorker, Bernie sanders who is carrying the young and old super expanding progressive movement on his back to sell out crowds.  He is the income inequality populist.

We got straight up strange fracture.

Or will hillary become the champion of the Obama legacy and Biden carries the working class vote? Who is to tell at this point?

Republican clowns how group is actually greater than typical with one pt Barnum running.
Oh yeah and the diversity of the large group. Not homogenous as dem dems.

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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 25, 2015, 12:53:52 AM »
Oh jeez. Bridgegate Loki, fugedahbatit.  That was much ado about a traffic jam. Nothing like the belt parkway daily grind anyway.  This was about the support people screwing up and getting caught.  Federal crime ok. But not classified info.

I'm telling ya, it's gold. Check  out the usc798 & 1924.  These are about highly classified info mishandling.  You cannot say it isn't fun to watch this pan out. Ok I get it.   Trump is not as compelling at this stage of the game at least for me.   I've watched Bernie sanders smoke clinton in a state she carried.
 and at this point it's more interesting to watch this nixonesque train wreck.

Oh yeah, a sharpening of a bet with uncle joe ready to jump in the race. Maybe.

I think we see who Barak Obama gets behind is your nominee. 8)



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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 18, 2015, 05:24:00 PM »
I'll follow up later.  Not sure why you dont find me credible? Or incredible for that matter.  This isn't spin or partisanship playing because we are talking an actual federal criminal investigation not bridgegate...lol
 
Yes, i think Bernie will win nh and Iowa---is that partisanship? Seriously? Is it?

I'll follow up later on but here is something factual and tangible-- not spin.   
 
Check this out future lawyers --   
FBI IS investigating Hillary Clinton and this is part of what she faces.
18 USC 798 and 18 USC 1924
Nixon shooting himself  in the foot was political theatre and today, perhaps by the end of the month we will have witnessed some awesome political theatre as Clinton goes down.
 

Come on guys perhaps I'm cynical but just dont want to admit that Clinton downfall is more engaging than trumps clownshow?

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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:26:35 AM »
8? Bernie dancers is a Democrat.  Unless you truly think he's a socialist in which case you'd be slightly mistaken and he's going to win new Hampshire. Maybe Iowa.  Hardly partisan.

And loki, you have given the impression that you think Clinton is a sure thing.  You introduced your
"big player" maybe coming out to hedge your bet, no?

And the very funny part is that presently not in an echo chamber, whatever that means, but in reality the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation regarding compromised classified and top secret info Clinton knowingly mishandled.

Loki, you are aware that the FBI dont investigate civil matters right?

Unless, you think there I no FBI investigation going on?

You are aware of the FBI investigation right?


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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 17, 2015, 10:17:10 PM »
Nope. Now, if you wanted to make a case that a drawn-out accumulation of innuendo

Now, like Clinton you are changing your story.  First Clinton was a sure thing--even gambling odds ---)she IS going to be the one nominated.  Now you introduce the caveat of "innuendo". 

Well innuendo or no innuendo it is very enjoyable watching Clinton go down. The thing about status quo is that every so often the koolaid wears off and like the FBI confiscating nixons private correspondence followed by his subsequent resignation change follows  happenstance.

Nixon didnt need a legal team either he was bread right up until he was toast. Lol

Loki? Dont you know that when the FBI investigates a politician it doesn't end well for the politician? You seem cerebral enough to get this.
Dont believe me?  See what bob Woodward said about Clinton's chances of success.

It is fun to watch because the vise tightens every day.  Republicans with trump is nowhere near as interesting---) they have a long way to go and unfortunately for establishment democrats the  writing is on Hillary Clinton's firewall.

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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 17, 2015, 03:31:30 PM »
....i hear crickets and tumbkeweeds now--- lmao.

So, what was that about the FBI investigating Nixon, ER I mean Clinton?

Just heard Woodward say the sane thing I was writing three weeks ago...

Drip drip drip mrs Clinton.  This slow implosion is fun to watch. 

One thing is for sure. Barring a Republican part that shoots itself in the foot. We are not getting a Democrat in the Whitehouse.
Clinton is legal toast. 

Where is the home brew server now?

This is awesome and hilarious.

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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 09, 2015, 10:59:30 AM »
The investigation into Hillary means jack. Almost all politicians have that stuff happen to them on some level (most often RAPE, full on RAPE) but they do just fine if they have the momentum behind them anyways (the rapists like it from behind I guess) She'll be fine. 100% chance of that.

Even the ones who are "punished" are a joke. Look at her husband, or Olly North. All joke punishments. All still had careers after that too.

Lmao.  It is a joke. That's the point. Even today hillarys right hand man huma abedin is in trouble.  Hillary, huma and her lawyer are all going to be under oath that they turned over all classified documents as ordered by a federal judge.  It is amazing how deep it gets as the summer wears on.

I guess you guys aren't following or don't follow news from legal,  business, political periodicals.  That's ok. You'll catch on soon enough.

"Hillary Clinton's  exempting herself from the practices imposed on the 24,000 Foreign Service officers and Civil Service workers she oversaw has led to resentment from some former subordinates. And by holding onto the official emails until the State Department was prompted by Congress to ask for them, and then deciding for herself which to preserve, Mrs. Clinton may have provoked mistrust even as she asks American voters to send her to the Oval Office."

These emails contain mucho highly classified info that hillaryo  didnto think she'd get caught holding...but she did. 

Small time mishandling of classified info is a criminal punishable offense.

Nixon thought he could get away with his private communications set up and it BURNED him---he was inevitably going to retain the presidency.  He did not.

Hillary is in that same drip drip boat---and she can't use "national security" reasons to hide behind.

Don't believe me.  That too makes this funny that you guys don't care to see it. It's okay.

This is not Whitewater rafting or lying about a cigar job. Lol

Watching hillarys downfall is sad but inevitable.  It makes for great political theatre

Just like tricky male private part nixon

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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 07, 2015, 09:54:35 PM »
Even a more quirky somewhat ironic twist in the clown car debate was Marco Rubio's sober self confidence and charisma.  The younger politician in the room seemed to be the adult above the fray.

He even attacked hillary clinton on her duplicity and policy--not a character assasination.

He was the only good thing I saw out of the so called debate which ironically again had quite a national audience.


I haven't made up my mind who I'm picking yet but so far Bernie sanders has honesty a real genuineness and a straightforward record to back it up.   Some of the republicans have to do a little more till I find a favorite in their group. 

As an independent we like a good spoiler to an all out one party congress; but we are fickle and two branches of government with one party controlling both can be a release point for beurocratic gridlock---at least for one term of a presidency.

Sorry trump and clinton don't cut the mustard.  If you don't believe me check out the numbersAnd I think most polling of independents don't have us favoring clinton or trump.



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News Discussion / Re: POTUS
« on: August 07, 2015, 09:39:06 PM »
Lol jeez man I guess  hyperbole is too abstract for some people. 
I'm not "betting" literally but I think the more interesting dynamic in the primary race is not democrat/republican/hillary clinton supporter Donald trump---he's a funny bit player---it's the FBI investigation into hillary clinton regarding keeping and destroying classified info. 

Here is why, we have not had such a super high profile politician fall from grace in a drip drip fashion since the FBI began its preliminary investigation of Richard Nixon and he denied any wrong doing up until he had to quit the presidency.   

With hillary clinton, regardless of the actual past and present odds on she becomes president that is all going down the toilet in a drip drip fashion...

If you remember the history of nixons ultimate downfall he was great until he got caught--just like poor hillary.

So, trying to convince people that the trump story is more compelling then hillary clintons inevitable "ness" turning into "not likely at all" is short shrift.

Let me give you an example: I cannot wait until Monday to hear new stuff about hillarys secret server and what the FBI will discover; after that inane supposed debate with trump looking like an ass I could care less about him.  He was mildly predictable and somewhat boring and a buzzkill compared to the hype around his off the cuff remarks. 

Sorry I'm a cynic and Clinton's nixonian parallel and fall from grace is VERY compelling.

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