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Tulsa / Re: TU Now Tier II
« on: September 30, 2012, 10:55:25 PM »
you'd be amazed how many anal ocd types apply for law school, and yes trust me, they care........obsessively so. (enough to talk all day about whether or not to transfer if their school drops a single number to one that went up a single number)

General Board / Dumbest Things Heard In Court
« on: September 29, 2012, 12:26:29 AM »
What are some of the dumbest things you have heard while in court?

I was shadowing an attorney in court and had my mind blown when I head the following conversation go down between the Prosocution and a Defendant.

Pros: Sure the crime in question dosn't deserve much time, but we have reason to believe he did (radom unrelated accusations) and the court should punish him for those.

Def:(whose court appointed attorney was virtually asleep behind the wheel) "I'm not on trial for those things, nor do I them"

Pros: "Prove it!"

Def: "Burden of proof is on the state"

Pros: "Cite your sources"..................

............. ??? What kind of dumb MF ask someone to "cite their sources" on the state having the burden of proof?????WTF?!?!?

The judge ended up siding with the defendant but didn't exactly repremand the prosocution either though. He just rolled his eyes and when he saw me in the front rows with the "WTF?!?!" look on my face just kind of shrugged his shoulders as if to say "yeah this dumbfuck is the best we could afford on state salary, we're used to it".

I didn't give this much though when I went to undergrad (and for most of us it's a moot point by now) but it still begs the question when thought about- Is the LSADAS culumaltive GPA standard fair, when applied the same way to all schools attended?

I don't think that it is. I say this for a few reasons. First, I (like many) attended an undergrad with a 4.0 grading scale. A 4.0 meant you got 100% on everything. Other schools have a 5.0 grading scale. You could do what got a 3.5 (ish) at the 4.0 school and still have ABOVE a 4.0 on their grading scale.  That alone seems unfair.

Plus obviously not all schools grade the same, most would say community college is easier. Most would also agree that blow off electives are easier than most required courses.

I think that the LSDAS shoudl adopt a standard where it calculates the GPA from schools that grade above a 4.0 (with whatever math that would work) to bring them down to what they would be at an actual 4.0 school before creating the cumulative GPA. That would seem fair.
It also would seem fair, to remove some electives from the GPA calculation. I  know that when applying to undergrad, a lot of the colleges told us that they did NOT factor in GYM and other simular blowoff classes into the GPA (and yes, there is college level gym)

Until this happens (don't hold your breath) would others agree that it would make sense to try to pick a 5.0 GPA school to go to undergrad at (and take as many blow off electives to get 5.0 in gym and the like) to artifically raise the GPA far above those applying for admissions from 4.0 schools? Wouldn't that seem like a logical choice to increase the odds of admissions and scholarships?

3L job search / When start applying?
« on: September 28, 2012, 01:08:36 PM »
This is my last year in law school. I hear about people getting jobs lined up while in law school, but is two terms away too soon to start applying? Do they want people who are less than a term away to even be considered? Anyone have any actual experience with this, or know of anyone who has ?

The military is an option to be seriously considered by anybody with a college degree and a J.D., whether you're accepted into the J.A.G. program or not. Your education will make you an immediate officer candidate, and they are not likely to throw you in front of a lot of flying bullets in a first-wave assault on Hamburger Hill with that kind of pedigree. You can live in the officer's quarters while you repay your student loans and serve the country at the same time. It's easy to save money or repay debts while serving, and it will give your resume an excellent boost. That said, you need to have what it takes to be an officer. There's a long road to travel between officer candidate and second lieutenant.
yeah 2 weeks at "camp challenge"....... ::)

Not exactly 4 years of ROTC, or 11B OCS. If you can meet the physical requirments, have the degree, and.......... well actually yup thats about it for this type of MOS.

Apply, if you get it then you are in. If not, then either fix the flaw(if possible) or move on to other options.
Remember, there are civilian JAG opportunities as well if you don't meet the military physical requirements.

Law School Applications / Re: LOW GPA LOW LSAT South Western Law
« on: September 28, 2012, 12:46:05 PM »
Hi, SF9119. I'm glad to hear you decided to retake the LSAT. Regarding your GPA, I think you don't need to worry that much, it's the LSAT that counts. You could include a personal statement to explain but I doubt it will be necessary.

there is a reason why people laugh at jokes about the blind leading the blind.............

Two great law schools and two licensing jurisdictions don't seem concerned.  Most employers will never even realize what the discharge means. 
Exactly what I thought. If two top schools are willing letting it go why would you worry about your future employer? If no one can tell you what the problem was back then it means it's not that important. I'm sure it won't affect your future job.
I know that you want to reply to an and all posts (for whatever reason) but honestly whats up with the dead threads? (not to even mention you are giving advice as a 0L that has no grounds behind it to give. If  someone wanted a random guess they'd just shake a magic 8 ball)

General Board / Re: Addicted to Student Loans
« on: September 28, 2012, 12:38:42 PM »
Why would you say you can't live without loans? For me, the simple idea of having to give money back is giving me the shivers.

for the same reason that people get "dependent on welfare and govt handouts (except here, yes as you pointed out, we have to pay them back-in thoery eventually)

If you re-read my post you will see the answer to your questions. (defer loans, keep money coming in)

The GPA is ok, but you need to get that LSAT up. Keep studying.

General Board / Addicted to Student Loans
« on: September 27, 2012, 06:21:45 PM »
Anyone else feel that after 8 years on student loans, having to live without them is scary as hell?

I don't even want a Masters or a PhD but am considering both just to keep living expences coming in and defer repayment. You only have to do the programs part time to get that, and you can normally do that on schedules that allow you to search for work (and god willing find it and start doing it) as well. In a poor job economy is this an idea that has entered anyone elses mind too?

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