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Law School Applications / Re: Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 06:37:26 PM »
What's going on with career services and its apparent implosion? I'll be honest, I'm nervous about the place...almost not wanting to apply.

Reasonable question. The Dean sent out an email today about this in response to a posting at abovethelaw.com. They reprinted the e-mail and you can go there to read about what is going on.

Basically, I think the story went like this. A former dean of CS left, and the staff didn't like the replacement, and she as a result quit. I think the former dean came back. Obviously, the 3Ls and 2Ls are a little more in touch with this issue; I didn't know any of these people and the only info I get is from the Dean and through Rumors (both not exactly sources were I will get the whole, accurate story). If the story we are hearing is correct, I think everything is mostly settled. Although, this is certainly a "stay tuned" situation.

I think Dean Partlet made the situation worse by not being upfront with the situation at first in an attempt to protect the privacy of the former Dean of Career Services. This made students nervous and it sort of snowballed from there. Personally, I'm not too worried about it myself, but I can understand why this is a concern.

EDIT: I also want to emphasize that CS while important, it isn't the ENTIRE picture. Emory is a great school, in a great city (many NYCers say they are surprised how happy they are with ATL), and we do have some great faculty here that really enjoy teaching.

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Law School Applications / Re: Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 06:30:41 PM »
it says on LSN that you got 54K...how is that almost debt free?  At 40k a year plus living expenses...thats about 150K!  I have heard that Emory gave out a sh*t ton last year too...I hope they are shellin it out this year too...Thank you so much for all of your answers, this has really helped in the process!! :)

I should have clarified: debt free including savings and project 2L summer money. I'm 30 and had a good job coming into school so I have a lot of savings and investments that will help shoulder the load.

Also, Emory's money was more breadth than depth. They gave very few scholarships over $54k - $60k, just the Woodruff, which is their full ride. I think this is a better way to get people in the door. We over enrolled this year by about 30 people or so and the Dean said at orientation that 1 in 3 people accepted to Emory enrolled, which is good for a school at Emory's level. I think the money had a lot to do with this.

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Law School Applications / Re: Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 05:41:28 PM »
6.  Tell me how your experience in general has been as a 1L.

Not as bad as I thought it would be. I treat it like a job. I'm at school from 8 - 6 M-F and I do some work on the weekends but nothing too extreme. I'm not a huge social butterfly, so the hardest thing I have had to deal with is not having close friends near by. This is not a result of Emory's social scene, it is more a result of me. Most of my friends back home deliver pizzas and play in punk rock bands for a living, not exactly the law school type. I'm more interested in meeting people outside the school anyway, and that has been a little difficult being in a new city.

Dude, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you've found a lot of cool people and places. If you need some advice on places in the city, let me know.

Good luck.

Haha well, it isn't THAT bad. I just live in Orlando for 15 years before coming here and basically left my whole world behind so it is a big adjustment. I'm happy with where I live. I just really haven't had a good opportunity to get out and meet some non law school people. That being said, I do have friends at the law school, people I really like, they just aren't the "same".

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Law School Applications / Re: Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 05:38:54 PM »
oh, and what other schools were you very interested in and accepted at...why did you choose Emory over the others?  Thank you so much!!!

If you take a look at my LSN profile, you can see that I was mainly interested in the big boys that didn't want me :)

For the most part though, I wanted to be in the Northeast. At the end of the day, with the money that Emory gave me, I can graduate with pretty much NO DEBT which is why I ended up here. I like Fordham actually, but it just would have been too much money without much return. I didn't really apply to many "peer" schools of those two simply because I would have gone to Emory or Fordham over them (say for example BU) because of where they were located. I received my Emory acceptance VERY quickly in the cycle.

I know many people on this board are going to disagree with me but if there is one thing I will recommend is this: don't scoff at money. If a good school gives you money, take it. Would I preferred to live in NYC over Atlanta, absolutely. However, Fordham was a) more expensive in tuition b) more expensive to live and c) offered me no money. It was seriously something like a $65K difference in cost between Emory and Fordham, and it just wasn't worth it to me. Also, I do like ATL ( not as much as NYC ) so if I ended up with a job here, I  would be happy.

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Law School Applications / Re: Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 05:32:07 PM »
how competitive?

biglaw cutoff?

job placement outside of atlanta

See supra for competitive.

BL cutoff? Don't really know, don't really care to be honest. I'm the wrong person to ask, because unlike many people I'm not sure the environment of BL (big $$$, crap hours, lots of butt kissing) is really for me. That being said, I think I good rule of thumb is that if you are in the top half of the class you have a decent shot at the Big Boys in the south.

As for outside Atlanta job placement, Emory's big markets are NYC and Atlanta. About 50% stay here in Atlanta, 25% go to NYC and the other 25% all over the place. Keep in mind though, career services isn't going to get a job for you. You are going to need to do some work as well. I think this is true everywhere, not just Emory.

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Law School Applications / Re: Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 05:26:17 PM »
1.  What is the social life like among Emory 1Ls?

I would say, in general, it is pretty good. What surprised me a little was that cliques seemed to form during orientation, or even BEFORE orientation. However, with a few exceptions, most people seem to be nice and willing to hang out. I'm also older than most of the students here (30), and I don't really feel left out or anything. There are a few "snotty" people and a few "loner" types, but for the most part, everyone is nice and everyone is friendly.
 
2.  How do you enjoy the professors?  Are they aloof, or do they have genuine caring.

Well, I will first say this: when I told an Emory alum who I had this semester his response was "wow...that's a rough slate." I'm not sure I agree with that. They want you to learn, and they aren't into berating you in class. My toughest prof, who is the most Socratic, is actually a nice person and teaches a class I feel  I understand the most. I have one professor is a little weird, but I don't think he is doing that to be a jerk, I just think he is a little weird in general.

3.  What is the courseload

We have a class called Legal Methods (not Legal Writing, that is a different one) which is unique to Emory, plus Torts, Contracts, Civ Pro and LWRAP (writing). LM gives us a chance to breathe a little this first year. I hear the exam is a little rough, but it isn't a class you REALLY have to prepare for. The others are pretty typical. I would say, the first 2-3 weeks I was spending about 2-3 hours outside of class for every hour of class time. That went down to 1-2 hours. Now, it is coming back up again because I'm getting ready for exams and fine tuning outlines going to study groups, etc. 

4.  How much, if any, scholarship dollars did you recieve?

You can check out my LSN, it's all there. I was happy with the money. This year in particular I understand Emory gave out A LOT of money. I've heard rumors that almost 75% of the class has some kind of scholarship.

5.  Are the students at Emory as competitive as rumored?

I don't know what the rumors are, but I don't think anyone is particularly competitive. At least not in my section. There are a few exceptions, but I haven't seen anything to make me think people here are competitive at all, at least not with me. I am a strong beliver in share your notes, be a nice person, help other people out as much as you can because in the end, all that matters is how you write your exam.

6.  Tell me how your experience in general has been as a 1L.

Not as bad as I thought it would be. I treat it like a job. I'm at school from 8 - 6 M-F and I do some work on the weekends but nothing too extreme. I'm not a huge social butterfly, so the hardest thing I have had to deal with is not having close friends near by. This is not a result of Emory's social scene, it is more a result of me. Most of my friends back home deliver pizzas and play in punk rock bands for a living, not exactly the law school type. I'm more interested in meeting people outside the school anyway, and that has been a little difficult being in a new city.

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Law School Applications / Emory 1L taking questions
« on: November 08, 2007, 03:47:11 PM »
If you want to know what it's like outside the totally awesome t-14. I'm killing a little time I don't have.

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Law School Applications / Re: Stetson Law Schhol?
« on: July 26, 2007, 04:20:44 PM »
I think the one thing that no one is talking about here is the difference in cost. UF and FSU are WAY cheaper than Stetson. Granted, if you can get into UF, you are likely to be considered for schloarship money at Stetson, however, that aside, if you want to stay in FL, UF is the way to go if you can get in.

That being said, would be the end of the world if you go to Stetson? I doubt it, espcially if you want to stay along I-4 area. At the end of the day though, UF is the school for FL.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2010
« on: July 11, 2007, 10:32:56 AM »
Hey...all the power players hit the gym.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Emory Class of 2010
« on: July 10, 2007, 01:52:28 PM »
I think if we all want to be power players in the legal field, early wake up times are critical. I would think, most of our days would go like this post law school:

4:30am: wake up
4:45am: hit the gym
5:45am: shower, dress
6:30am: start the work day
1:00pm: eat at desk while writing memos
10:30pm: leave office
11:15pm: spend time with the wife/husband if they haven't divorced us yet
11:16pm: sleep

8:30 isn't anything...

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