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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Pwned by Federal Judge
« on: March 16, 2008, 12:07:55 PM »
This one is pretty good too: http://www.studentweb.law.ttu.edu/cochran/cochran/Business%20Torts/mattel.htm

(see especially the final line of the opinion)

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I will be a better student in law school because of my job experience.  I am more valuable as a 3.4 student with 4 years of full time employment than I would have been with a 3.7 and one summer internship.

Maybe, but not necessarily. To say so would conflate experience with potential. Do you win with experience? Definitely. Do you win with potential? Maybe not. Give the 3.7 applicant four years and you'll probably have an applicant with a 3.7 AND four years of work experience, just like you.

There's certainly something to be said for the way business schools do things - that is, having full time work experience be pretty much a prerequisite - but (rightly or wrongly), it isn't the way law schools do things.

Remember that GPA plays second fiddle to LSAT. In your hypo, your four years of work experience haven't enabled you to score better on the LSAT (which is the best individual predictor of first year law school performance we have, as imperfect as it is). Why work experience doesn't play a huge role in law school admissions is, I think, more complex than "adcomms are biased because of their own high GPAs."


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yeah i do that too Bouzie

Also I noticed today that one of the classes you guys can go to Friday is Civ Pro

Don't go. For real. :P

Why not? Is it bad?

haha naw, its pretty good.  And its taught by Tom Cruise.  Civ pro, in general, though, would not be a fun class to sit in on an ASW.  Its all about rules that are pretty meaningiless to you at this point, I'd think.

If anyone plans on being awake at 8AM Friday, you might want to sit in on our Constitutional Law class.  It's certainly one of the more interesting classes, and it might give you a better view of what a law school class is like (with the caveat that professors who aren't our con law professor call on far fewer people per class). Civ Pro might be weird on Friday because we'll probably be talking about Motions Day (Federal judge is coming to the law school tomorrow to hold hearings on motions in our Civ Pro class).

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yeah i do that too Bouzie

Also I noticed today that one of the classes you guys can go to Friday is Civ Pro

Don't go. For real. :P

Ugh, I was hoping he'd cancel class for Friday :(

Seriously!!  After having six hours of class already this week.  Anyway, I guess he will want to talk about Motion Day.  Maybe next week will be a light week. :)  We can't say there haven't been light weeks in the past.

Anyway, which Civ Pro can they come to?  The Pearl Section or the Bouz Section?

Yeah, between 6 Civ Pro classes, 5 property classes this week, and then volunteering at the SFF auction tomorrow (admitted students: I might be checking your coat), I can't wait until this week is over.

I think the ASW'ers are going to MNOP's class though.

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yeah i do that too Bouzie

Also I noticed today that one of the classes you guys can go to Friday is Civ Pro

Don't go. For real. :P

Ugh, I was hoping he'd cancel class for Friday :(

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I suppose, but does this matter if the OP is just trying to gauge how much its possible to make (to pay debt or otherwise) before he/she graduates?

when i say big firm, i'm not really talking about the size of the firm so much as whether or not they pay the top rate for associates, namely the $160k starting figure.

how much they pay does make big difference on ability to pay down debt, after all.  ;)

$1200/wk in Toledo is probably > $3000/wk in NYC.
If debt were scaled by cost of living, maybe.

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I'm just saying you can't compare the raw income numbers. I'm not saying anything about the raw amount of debt accumulated.

No you can't just compare the raw income, but $3000 a week in NYC is still going to be significantly more, whether you're paying off your debt or something else. NYC living costs are high, but not $1800 a week more than Toledo.

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The Harvard Alumni magazine:


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There are some situations in which lay prestige can matter a great deal, although they're admittedly rare -- mostly non-law sectors where the JD is tangentially relevant.  Too, I wonder to what degree your average Congressman knows that Cornell is ranked below Penn when looking for judicial nominees?  Many of them, of course, are lawyers -- but not all.

I hope you're not implying that the difference in rank between Penn and Cornell should be a relevant factor in judicial nominations.

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He was an editor of the Harvard Law Review, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him pop up in the promotional materials there.

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Do you realize that the OP could single-handedly bring UVA's entering class mean LSAT down by  a point or two, while doing nothing too significant in terms of its GPA?  Then again, I think median is used a lot of times when reporting those numbers.

You are very bad at math.

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