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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Is this Really the Case?
« on: April 06, 2008, 09:43:48 PM »
Posters in this thread, yes. Posters in other threads (and on other boards), many who have finished at the top of their class, one of which who is #1 in his class at the top 20 school, have said otherwise. Besides, it's depressing as @#!* to hear people say 'oh it's all luck'. If that was true, the law school system would have been reformed YEARS ago.

Something about law school being 'depressing as @#!*', regrettably, does not make it false. I don't have a position on the underlying question here, but the fact that there are really smart people that run and attend law schools doesn't mean there aren't significant issues in how legal education works.

Ha ha ha... I don't know *&^% because I'm not in law school yet. Not substantively, no, but this board has a plethora of information about law school. I've also read some books (the only books I've read for fun in years, btw) and talked to the many people I know currently in law school. Do I know as much as you? Probably not, but you can't say for sure. Most of my friends in law school had never heard of LEEWS, for example. Not saying LEEWS is needed for success (I have no clue if it is), but they fact they have never even heard of it is surprising (I visited Duke law school and flyers were all over the joint). Pulling rank as a reason you know more, when you aren't even doing well in law school, is not a good argument.

It's one thing to be skeptical of advice given by current law students, despite the fact they are in law school and know what it is like. It's a whole other thing to use the authority of 1) LSD, 2) your friends in law school, 3) the study guides you've read and 4) the fact that you've heard about LEEWS to argue the exact opposite. There's no reason why anyone should believe that you are making a strong argument about the mechanics of law school five months before you start law school.

The reason why you don't know whether LEEWS works or not is because you're not a law student and you don't know everything about how law school works.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Is this Really the Case?
« on: April 06, 2008, 06:16:17 PM »
I never thought I'd meet someone the polar opposite of me (granted it's online)... let me guess more things... you don't get people who are obsessed with watching sports, you think Conan O'Brien is annoying, you read for fun, you don't like rap or metal, you find it suitable to make fun of other people but get defensive when people take shots at you (especially if it's a woman joke, like 'why are you out of the kitchen' or something like that), and you can't possibly understand how people can have a different point of view than you (short of mental retardation).

So the polar opposite of you is someone who reads for fun? That's interesting.

Law School Applications / Re: Which test is harder?
« on: April 06, 2008, 09:30:29 AM »
That all depends on what you mean by hardest/easiest. Easiest to get more questions right, or easier to get a higher score? The answer can completely change depending on what you mean by it. The fact that you have to compete with all the gunners (one of which was me...) on the June curve may make it harder to get a better score.

No, LSAT test curves are formed based on test information from a few years of prior exams. It can take into account that June test takers may be stronger than February test takers. Remember, the whole point of the curve is so that we can compare a June test taker (reasonably) accurately with a September test taker. 

There's a lot of misinformation in this thread, and ultimately, standardized testing is not something any of us here are experts in. You are likely doing yourself a grave disservice if you decide when to take the test based on the information in this thread rather than when you believe you will do your best performance.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Summer Before 1L
« on: April 04, 2008, 09:53:42 PM »
If there are some non-law related books that you want to read in the next year and a half, you should read them this summer. Not that you won't necessarily have the time to read for pleasure during the law school, you just might not have the motivation after reading your casebooks for several hours a day.

Law School Applications / Re: ASD's: How to Dress?
« on: April 02, 2008, 05:08:39 PM »
I want to make an impression and turn a couple heads. But that's me.

I know people want to be popular and make lots of friends and all that jazz, but isn't it a misplacement of priorities to want to 'turn heads', or hell, spend more than five minutes worrying about what to wear, when this is your only opportunity (probably) to see up close the place where you might be spending three years in and $150,000 dollars for? Worry about the questions you want to ask, or the places you want to check out, not about whether you should wear khakis or jeans.

If you get a chance, sit in on Professor Primus' ConLaw class.  I skipped the Financial Aid panel to see him teach, and I talked someone else into doing the same, because it was the best way to answer the question, "Is this going to be worth the cost?"  (And the answer, at least judging from that class, is a definite, "Yes!")

Heh, everyone loves Professor Primus as long as you don't have to answer any of his questions. Our Con Law class is the 'official' sit-in class for this preview weekend (we're moving to a different place and time on Friday to accommodate), so no one has any excuses not to come.

Do any of you guys stop to consider how really... really f-ing lucky we are to get accepted at/ attend the University of Michigan? Holy *&^%. Its just dawning on me...

*cue "The Victors"* Leaders and the best, and such :)

GradPLUS covers up to the cost of attendance, minus any other financial aid you've received (stafford loans, etc).

I live in a neighborhood about fifteen minutes (walking) from the law school with a fair proportion of undergrads (but also a very significant proportion of grad/professional students) and it has been just fine. I think I've been kept up by noise two or three times this year (and only during the weekend). It's important to ask around and find out which neighborhoods tend to be quiet/not so much.

If you insist on living somewhere where they wouldn't even rent to an undergrad, there's a good chance that it will be farther away from school. Short commutes are a good thing to have during 1L, I know I appreciate mine.

Also keep in mind that there is no guarantee that your law or grad student roommate is going to be as mature, responsible, or as studious as you. There are plenty of law students here with exceedingly active social lives and sparse study schedules. If you think it is going to be a problem that your roommate watches TV and plays Wii while you're studying, then I suggest living by yourself.

Are you happy, Wallace?

I don't think schools give waivers for deposits for the reasons you want them to. If you want to reserve a seat at a school, you have to pay for it.

Unless you've signed something to the effect saying that you've withdrawn all other applications, there isn't anything misleading about accepting a waitlist offer or putting down multiple deposits. But you're going to lose the deposits at the other schools.

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