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All in all, from what I've learned from active attorney's in my area, is that where you went to school is far less important than if you're good at what you do. A crappy attorney is a crappy attorney no matter where you went to school, and vice versus.  Non ABA schools are a very good option considering you can practice law almost anywhere so long as you pass the bar in California and practice for a few years before applying to take the bar in another state.

The ABA is nice but is very over rated. I think people are going to see a shift as the cost v. benefit of attending an ABA school is not what it once was when you compare dollars and cents.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: Reason for going online
« on: August 06, 2012, 01:20:41 AM »
I was considering law school online, as it's cheaper than the traditional route, and I know I have the maturity and discipline to attend school online. However, as life is a continual learning experience. I recently had the opportunity to hear from a traditional law school alumni who offered a unique insight I would have never considered regarding online law school. A local partner at a prestigious law firm spoke to me about the value of law clinics and gaining experience that online schools don't offer. She stated the job market is flooded with individuals with a law degree and no real world experience. She explained that real world experience is something that cannot be under estimated, as the connections you make during a law clinic can make the determination whether you have a job at graduation or if your just another law school graduate with no real world experience looking for a job. She also stated the law school you attend is not as much of an issue, sol long as your good at your craft. She told me nobody asks her where she attended law school, as they are more concerned by why she is so successful in the courtroom.

The reality is this, online education is not what it used to be. Many individuals who would never have considered online education are now changing their perception as it becomes more acceptable. Although I've never attended APU, they are considered a very good online university. Granted they are not an ivy league university, but they are no less creditable than your run of the mill state college.

Earning an online degree requires more maturity, dedication, and time management than most B&M universities with more of a traditional structure where students are forced to attend class or they fail. This discipline could be very adventitious and transition well into law school. Take into consideration that in some law related circles, where you went to school really matters; but that pertains to where you went to law school and not where you went for undergraduate.

. Keeping in mind that CA has the toughest bar exam in the nation...

Why?  Because so many people fail?  You don't think the fact that so many people fail has something to do with the fact that virtually every other state requires ABA accreditation?

So ABA accreditation automatically means anybody whoever doesn't attend an ABA school is inferior and therefore cannot pass the California Bar Exam?

Good luck and be sure to keep us posted.

This is some really good feedback and many good points to consider, thank you for your input.

Like I stated before, I'm coming out of law enforcement so if I was to practice law, I would prefer to work for the District Attorney's Office. After all, I would rather contribute by keeping criminals in jail rather than trying to keep those individuals out. The Cal-Bar school near my house is not correspondence, and a large number of their graduates are hired by the D.A.'s office. They also have a courthouse on site that is run by the Superior Court of California, so there is a lot of networking between the students of this school and the D.A.'s Office. If I couldn't get a position with the D.A.'s Office, I would open my own practice as I would not like to work for a law firm. Hence my situation, and the reason why I treading lightly and trying to weigh my opinions . . .

Just one thought regarding a students resolve in attending an online law school; I think most people who have never attended college online have some apprehension about it, and rightfully so. However, more and more people are attending school online and for me personally, I obtained one undergraduate degree at a local state university, and another undergraduate degree completely online. I found that while both offered different challenges, neither one was easy. But with that being said, now that I have gone the online route, I found that I prefer to attend school online rather than the traditional route.

In terms of law school it's a toss up. I can see the value to attending classroom instruction and networking through other students. Not to mention all the educational opportunities associated with participating in mock trails and such. However, several students like myself have a ton of life experience so we might not reap such a benefit compared to younger students. I have over seven years as a Police Officer, so I'm familiar with the legal system to a limited extent, and I have participated in several trials so I have a general knowledge above a laid men regarding how these things place out in the real world. But that is my experience in the criminal law side of the house, and I recognize that is only one piece of the puzzle.

So attending law school via correspondence is a good fit for me, as I don not reside near an ABA school and I have experience attending school online. Where I find myself torn is whether I should go to the B&M Cal Bar school two miles away from my house for about $50,000; or should I attend a law school via correspondence for approximately $12,000 out the door? That is a decision I have to consider very carefully, which is why I joined this forum. Folks like Roald can offer valuable insight based on their experience, which is appreciated compared to the young student who thinks they have the world figured out already at the age of 21, lol.

You know what I found interesting. There is an attorney in my area that is very well known and he has a great reputation. He graduated from a tier one law school and he has been practicing law for a very long time. I was cruising around his website and noticed his son just joined his law firm. I was curious so I looked him up and it seems his son graduated from a non ABA school accredited by Cal-Bar. Being that the kid came from a family of attorney's will alot of money, but yet he didn't go the ABA . . . . . . very interesting.

Not necessarly, considering about half of all the Assistant District Attoney's here in my area all graduated from a local law school that is not ABA accredited. It may limit where in governement you can work, but it doesn't exclude you from it.

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