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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Decisions-Decisions...<grumble>
« on: January 21, 2013, 11:52:31 PM »
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.  My gpa will be approximately 3.80 when I graduate and my cold LSAT diagnostic last week was a 153.  I'll have all the PowerScore books in by the end of the week and I signed up for a 4-5 week long PowerScore course that begins in April for the June test.  I'm confident that I can get up to the 162-164 mark just by learning the tricks to the darned logic games and getting more familiar with the types of LR questions.  Time will tell, though of course the goal is substantially higher than what I believe I can surely get with some hard, focused work.  Looks like it's gonna be Memphis even though it isn't even ranked.  However, after doing some web surfing and talking to some acquaintances, the law school at Memphis is thought of very highly in this market.  Again, thanks.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Decisions-Decisions...<grumble>
« on: January 21, 2013, 03:11:32 PM »
That answered that question...I'm going cheap!  Thank you all!

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Thanks for the replies:  I'm almost 100% sure I'll go to Memphis since I really don't want to leave my support network behind.  Skype just isn't the same as seeing family and friends.  Besides, I have a horrible time trying to sleep without the redheaded goddess next to me.

Re: practice areas

jonlevy, that's exactly what I have first and foremost as a plan right now, depending on how much of a mentor network I can build prior to graduation (social security, disability, and workers comp).  In addition to those areas I'll be using the business contacts I have across the state to do B2B collections work and insurance recovery on catastrophic property losses (water damage/fire damage). 

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Where should I go next fall? / Decisions-Decisions...<grumble>
« on: January 20, 2013, 12:22:49 AM »
I'm 46 years old. I'm in Memphis.

I can get into Memphis and not add a lot of debt over the 3 years; maybe an extra $35k over my undergrad loans. I can do this with minimal, if any, LSAT prep (but I *WILL* be studying and prepping).  Cold diagnostic (online) was 153 and I went -14 on logic games, -5 & -10 on LR, and -8 on RC.

I can bust my ass for 4-5 months and hypothetically/maybe score a 165-170 (maybe even a little higher), and combined with my projected gpa of 3.8 get some decent scholarship and with living expenses maybe be out an extra $75k over my undergrad loans.

When I graduate I'll be 51 years old. At this age does rank even matter considering how firms will likely ding me for being an old fart?

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I'm 46 years old. I'm in Memphis.

I can get into Memphis and not add a lot of debt over the 3 years; maybe an extra $35k over my undergrad loans. I can do this with minimal, if any, LSAT prep (but I *WILL* be studying and prepping).  Cold diagnostic (online) was 153 and I went -14 on logic games, -5 & -10 on LR, and -8 on RC. 

I can bust my ass for 4-5 months and hypothetically/maybe score a 165-170 (maybe even a little higher), and combined with my projected gpa of 3.8 get some decent scholarship and with living expenses maybe be out an extra $75k over my undergrad loans.

When I graduate I'll be 51 years old. At this age does rank even matter considering how firms will likely ding me for being an old fart?

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I have no idea what the market rate is, or what it will bear in Podunk, USA.  He's in a county with a population of about 20k and in a city with less than 1k population; far northeast Iowa; Calmar.

I've done some number crunching for here in Memphis, and I'm not too far off from where your numbers are...about 10% difference, but I also threw in some projections for appointed work as a guardian ad litem.  I'm a volunteer court appointed special advocate, so I'm getting to know all the people at CASA, CPS, DCS, and the juvenile courts, which can't hurt any.  Combine that with my contacts in the disaster restoration industry (more than a few storm-chasers), and the vast number of unrepresented unsecured creditors providing service to the multi-family housing market, and I should be good to go...once I learn the actual processes, that is. 

Thanks for the reply.

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Thanks for the replies.  You are both very encouraging.  I happened across a blog about an hour ago being done by someone who I really empathize with (regardless of the age difference) and has hung out their shingle.  My eyes actually got a little wet while reading it. 

http://hangshingles.wordpress.com/

I'm pretty sure I'll be up and running much faster than this person with the contacts I already have, but *WOW* -

I already consider myself lucky that I've got a LOT of friends and family who are behind me 100%, and I'm going to need that support network for the long haul.

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I could use some guidance in two areas, please.

First, a little about me. I'm a 45 year old undergraduate who has worked in a family carpet cleaning business for the past 20+ years, with no insurance, living week to week on about $32k year (yeah, I've always been a working class stiff). I always wanted to practice law whether it was arguing a civil case, a criminal case, or even help small business owners collect on their accounts receivables, so I took the plunge back into college about 3 years ago. I am currently on track to graduate next year with a high grade point average (3.7+) with a double major in Political Science & Philosophy, and am averaging about 160 on practice LSATS. By the time I'm done with the undergraduate and law degrees, even at a local state school (large metro), I'll be about $100k in debt. However, I fully intend to hang a shingle and start doing collections work for small mom & pop companies across the state who service the multi-family housing (apartment) market for property investment and management firms, as unsecured creditors. I know our small company generates an easy $15k annually for our current attorney and we're small potatoes in a market saturated with small potatoes who need the collections assistance.

Second, I'm confident I'll get admitted to law school but want to maximize my ability to be able to do a few things immediately upon graduation/passing the Bar exam.
1 - Be competent to serve as prosecutor or public defender if the debt load proves too much and I need to serve 10 years in public interest to get out from under it.
2 - Be competent to hang a shingle for small business assistance (organization, contracts, collections)
3 - Be competent to hang a shingle for criminal defense (DUI, for example)
4 - Be competent to hang a shingle for civil litigation (insurance bad faith, for example)

Which brings me to where I need the help.

A - I need a reality check to know if what I'm looking to do is really worth it from a financial standpoint considering the current legal market and economy.

B - Looking at the course offering, I've tentatively selected the courses and semesters that *I THINK* will best serve my end goal of solo practice, and would like advice, comments, and criticisms of what I've selected. I list them below.

Thank you very much for any assistance and guidance.

Bob Huddleston

Year 1 Fall
Civil Procedure I
Property I
Torts I
Legal Methods I
Criminal Law

Year 1 Spring
Civil Procedure II
Property II
Torts II
Legal Methods II
Contracts
Constitutional Law

Year 2 Fall
Business Organizations I
Criminal Procedure I
Civil Procedure III
Trial Advocacy
Evidence

Year 2 Spring
Debtor – Creditor
Criminal Procedure II
Sales
Secured Transactions
Remedies
Professional Responsibility

Year 3 Fall
Criminal Justice Extern.
Civil Rights
Discovery
Legal Argument & Appellate Practice
Litigation Drafting
Administrative Law

Year 3 Spring
Conflicts
Insurance Law
Contract Drafting
General Sessions Litigation Clinic
State Civil Procedure Seminar.
Federal Courts

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