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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Some funnies for finals week
« on: December 10, 2011, 07:48:27 AM »

All 16 of those are epic funny!  :D :D

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Easily confused topics/words
« on: December 09, 2011, 05:10:21 PM »
Hi gottajiboo,

Although there are too many variations of words to give you a list, you bring up a good point: a lot of points can be had or missed on the LSAT by just being sensitive to words.

Before you mark your right answer, make sure its scope and direction matches the question's and passages'.

Best of luck.

Let us know how it goes.

Are you sure you are qualified to be an LSAT teacher or tutor?  This is another duh obvious -this dude has no clue about what he is talking about concerning the LSAT- post from you.  It demonstrates major reading comprehension failure and lack of simple knowledge about basics of the LSAT including ignorance of the ground level basics regarding dates when it is administered.

The user you responded to was scheduled to take the October 2011 LSAT two days after posting this thread.  The US/Canada regions December 2011 LSAT was administered last weekend December 3rd and Monday December 5th for Saturday sabbath observers.  The saying "A day late and a dollar short" is far to generous to describe you. 

Please learn something about the LSAT before continuing to try to sell tutoring/preparation services to students. 
You should start here:


Waking up your brain takes more than waking up early.

Plan for how you will have LSAT energy when you need it.

Yes, waking-up early may be a part of it, but so is going to sleep early, eating right, exercising, etc., etc.

Your LSAT score reflects how you get your brain ready, so make sure on test-day it is as crisp, clear, and as powerful as possible.

Hey supposed LSAT tutor and junkie Win, you are a little late trying to help this student.  The test the student was getting ready for was administered last Saturday.

I read online that when getting to test center, you can be expected to wait a hour to get a room, since the December test says I have to be there at 8:30 what would be the actual time
People are in room and starting (after instructions).

also im having trouble getting energized after waking up at 6 - though now
I have no issues with it - is it normal ?

The time the proctors tell you to open the test book and start section one varies by test center.  It depends largely on how many people show up to take the test at the particular test center.  For most centers, assuming no unexpected/extraordinary disruptive events (like another 'occupy' protest/sit-in breaking out in front of the building) occur, section one typically begins at roughly 9:15-9:30 a.m. and can be as late as 10:00a.m. if there are a lot of students to check-in/assign to rooms before the proctors are allowed to distribute the materials and read the instructions before saying GO!

Your second question is unclear.  If you have been waking up early for at least several days and now have no issues with being energized in the morning hours, the answer is yes, that is normal and a good thing so that you are alert and your brain is firing on all cylinders when the test begins. 

Good luck!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: URGENT - Death in family- taking December test
« on: November 17, 2011, 11:04:47 PM »
Months of studying and looking forward to a date - i have no choice but to take it as im hoping to get admissions for 2012.

You should revisit this idea while your emotions from the grieving process progress because you do have a choice.

Life is filled with unexpected events and circumstances that interfere with how you planned and hope things will go. You have to make adjustments along the way since nothing will ever go perfectly according to plan.

If you are able to refocus and achieve practice test scores that are in your goal range during the last week leading up to the December test (On fresh PrepTests you have not been exposed to before and take under honest/strict test-day simulated conditions), go ahead and take it.  If not, reconsider your plans and maybe withdraw your LSAT registration. You have until midnight the day before the test to do that so that nothing shows up on your CAS report and it does not count towards the three times in two years LSAT rule. 

It is not the end of the world if you have to postpone applying to law school for one year.  You should only take an officially administered LSAT when you are in proper condition to achieve the highest score you are capable of since the reported score has enormous influence on your admission chances to quality schools. 

My condolences about your loss.  Experiencing the death of a loved one sucks and takes time to get over. 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: MLIC LSAT PREP COURSE
« on: October 22, 2011, 10:43:33 PM »
Anyone familiar with MLIC?  They guarantee a score of 165.

As a general rule of thumb, any prep source/company that guarantees a score is a bad one and should be avoided.  For many reasons, nobody can honestly guarantee a place on the scoring scale that their students will achieve or exceed on test day.  None of the quality/reputable prep sources offer this type of a guarantee.  It's a desperate and pathetic marketing ploy typically used by unscrupulous prep companies run by people that don't know how to effectively prepare people to take the LSAT. 

Roughly 92% of people that take the LSAT score below 165.  If this company has discovered a magic formula that works to ensure most or all of their students score in the top eight percent of test takers, I'd like to know what it is since it would revolutionize LSAT prep and higher education in general.  Unfortunately, no simple/magical 'just do XYZ and you'll score 165 or above guaranteed' educational formula, system or pill exists since the LSAT is a skills based achievement/aptitude test.  Students have different starting points and proficiency/understanding/skill levels with the logic and other skills tested by the LSAT that depend in part on abilities acquired/developed during previous education in grade school/middle school/high school and college. 

In short form, you cannot buy the skill sets the LSAT is designed to measure in order to achieve a particular desired score, but you can buy quality education that builds on existing academic ability to IMPROVE performance on the LSAT.

If you are a legit student rather than a shill/spammer for the company, I suggest you avoid them like you would try to avoid a plague.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: from untimed to timed?
« on: October 19, 2011, 09:44:48 PM »
Timed practice is largely overrated. Take a timed test once a week just to see what neighborhood your score is in and to get a feel for your pacing. It's counter intuitive, but your speed is going to come from slow, deliberate practice, not racing the clock.

Also, I suspect your score is going to be high enough that you can't justify skipping the "hard" questions.

The one thing I would add to this is that even with untimed practice you want to be developing the habits that you will actually use on the test. Sounds obvious, but I found that I had certain habits in untimed practice that I completely disregarded when I was up against the clock. Develop the habits in untimed practice that can still be useful taking the test.

This is a really important and frequently overlooked aspect of how to effectively prepare for the LSAT in order to perform well when it counts. 

While under the security rules/procedures, stress, and time pressure of test day, it's just you with a #2 wood pencil in hand, a flimsy test booklet, a bubble answer sheet, your brain and how it is trained/programmed to react split second. 

Online/computer/multi-media devices content/videos/etc. can be very helpful for instruction about the content and concepts of the test to educate and help guide you about how to do the homework effectively. 

However, when you do the homework by working LSAT questions to apply what you have learned (whether doing questions timed or untimed and/or within whichever organization you go with), it's important to do them on paper with a pencil.  Doing the homework that way helps train/ingrain habits through repetition that are important on test day so they are automatic and you don't mess-up or have to waste time thinking about anything except the materials in front of you and selecting the credited answer choices when every point matters.


Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic Games Ultimate Setups Guide
« on: July 14, 2011, 08:31:37 AM »
Yeah, I have the book and pdf also.  You need all the preptests since it's not included in the book.  I'm comparing my initial setup with the ones provided by the book.  I'm still a little bit confused on grouping, and other advanced games.  But I've got basic linear down.  My setup for others are still a little bit off.  It's kind of hard, since I'm teaching myself material based on the book.

Plus the book doesnt provide you with explainations for all of the questions.  They only provide setup diagram, a brief explanation about the game, and address 1 or 2 complicated questions in each game.  Worth getting, if you want to ace the LG section.   

hello,can u pls send me the pdf (if possible ) to ,i am a student and i need the LSAT logic games ultimate setup also LSAT kaplan 180 for RC,it would be really helpful if u can send me .....

Hey Azeez,

You are almost 7 years late asking Casper to violate copyright laws and pirate materials for you.  It's especially great that you shared your email address and name.  In case you didn't notice, the URL/weblink in Caspers user profile is for the New York County District Attorney's office, which might mean that he became a prosecutor after attending law school.

You'll surely make a great lawyer!  :D Good Luck!  :D :D :D :D

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Preptest 34 s4 8-12
« on: July 13, 2011, 06:34:30 PM »
You start by writing out the lecture possibilities for each of the five weeks as described in the indented rules (1st week K/L/M, 2nd week K/L/M/N, 3rd week M/N, fourth week M/N, fifth week N/O/P) and then narrow down the possibilities from there.  Since 3rd and 4th weeks can only be either M or N, you eliminate M and N from the other weeks and further narrow down the possibilities from that with two templates.  3rd M & 4th N or 3rd N & 4th M.  It gets pretty easy once you break it down into those two templates/scenarios.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: How does this sound?
« on: April 12, 2011, 09:21:13 PM »
I'm a current undergrad sophomore, rising Junior, and just today I jumped into LSAT prep for the first time. I figured the best way to start was to take the free practice test from LSAC, and time myself like I was taking the actual test. My score, with no previous preparation, was a 159. From what I've read that sounds like a pretty decent place to be in right off the bat. My GPA is sitting a little low for my tastes, at a 3.2, but that's after 4 credits of French to fulfill my language requirement that didn't go so well, and I anticipate mostly smooth sailing (depending on how Stats goes next year) from here on out. Based on my performance in all my major related classes so far (Political Science), which have been almost all As with a few Bs, I think it's realistic to expect I'll get something between a 3.3-3.5 by the time I graduate.

I can't really afford the super expensive LSAT prep courses, so my plan is basically to get my hands on as many real practice tests as I possibly can and start doing those over the summer with the goal of taking it spring of my junior year. Do I sound like I'm on a solid track? And is there any other practice advice you guys have? I'd like to try and get that 159 up to a high 160 somethin' or I mean, maybe even something round 170 (a boy can dream).

I have no illusions about getting into a T-14 or anything, but would a top 50ish school be a reasonable goal with a 3.3-3.5 GPA and a 160-170 LSAT score?

In general just wanted to say Hi and ask for any advice you guys might have. Thanks!

You are in a good situation to be able significantly enhance your potential law school prospects when you get to the applying stage since you have plenty of time ahead of you to lock in good numbers (UGPA and LSAT score). 

Starting with a cold 159 is great news in terms of your potential final score on test day.  Given your starting point and the time you have, with good QUALITY prep you should be able to reach/break 170. 

If you can reach at least mid-high 160's as well as pull your GPA up to ~3.5 range, you should have no problem getting accepted to several LS's ranked in the top 50 and could even get yourself accepted to some first tier schools if you knock the LSAT out of the park.

I started with a cold first time practice test score of 151 and ~6 months later hit 177 on the real thing, applied with my crappy UGPA (low 3.XX region, I spent more time on girls and parties 1st two years of UG than on classes and studying but 'reformed' myself and my GPA later) and was accepted to several tier 1 LS's with scholarship $$$ offers from some.  Ended up attending and graduating from USC (go Trojans!) law school.

Main point being, you have a lot of potential to be able to secure admission to a highly ranked LS if you prioritize well and play your cards right.

That being said, DO NOT go with doing the "churn and burn" prep method of mainly just doing a bunch of timed tests.  That routine alone does not help you figure out/train you how to perform better.  By itself it mainly just helps you get better at answering the same amount of questions wrong in less time.

Since you are a sophomore with plenty of time ahead before you need to take the LSAT, right now you should be focusing most of your academic/study time on your UG classes in order to increase your UGPA.  You get do-overs with the LSAT since most LS's take your highest score.  You do not get do-overs with your UGPA.

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