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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« on: February 18, 2012, 12:31:31 AM »
Kindly share some views about the after Law School if someone want to do practice for legal matters where he or she can do that.?

Sorry, this is a bit incoherent and I don't understand the question...

It's probably a post from one of the paid to post on your board services that Andrew, the owner of this site, hired to revive discussion and traffic on the board.  Many of those services, especially the really cheap ones, are located overseas so their English, understanding of the LSAT and North America legal systems can be pretty bad.

Wait, they HIRED people to increase discussion on lawschooldiscussion.org?  This makes me really sad, actually ... this board was thriving out of control back in 2006 when I was applying for law school :(

It's sad but it's true.  I joined here in 2006 as well and it was a thriving community back then with a lot of good advice, tons of good regular posters, many active threads, etc.  It started devolving into becoming basically a desert roughly three years ago and has spiraled down in a slow painful nose-dive over that time. 

I believe one of the main causes has been the technical problems and the board frequently going down for days because Andrew wasn't paying attention and took a while to notice and get around to fixing things.  During the down times people migrated over to TLS.

There is a big cottage industry of sites/people that will post for pay or for bartered reciprocal posting on other forums. Part of the driving force is ad revenue. The more activity/posts/views, the more ad $$ the site owner passively earns.

Here is just one of many examples: http://forumpromotion.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=6

Oh well, the glory days of LSD are over, at least for now, and it makes me sad.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« on: February 17, 2012, 03:58:25 PM »
Kindly share some views about the after Law School if someone want to do practice for legal matters where he or she can do that.?

Sorry, this is a bit incoherent and I don't understand the question...

It's probably a post from one of the paid to post on your board services that Andrew, the owner of this site, hired to revive discussion and traffic on the board.  Many of those services, especially the really cheap ones, are located overseas so their English, understanding of the LSAT and North America legal systems can be pretty bad. 


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« on: February 14, 2012, 03:54:04 PM »
I'm a 2010 law school grad and currently a lawyer.  I would advise you major in something more useful like business/Economics or science or engineering.  This will give you an edge on the job market after law school ... The job market for lawyers is currently dismal.  I'm a very optimistic person, and even I can admit that.  It doesn't look like its getting better, so you shouldn't count on that (but it would be awesome if things improved!)   Also, if you have an engineering or hard science background, you can do patent law / ip which is in higher demand.

I'd recommend minoring in English or philosophy (or just taking courses) to get the edge for writing / reading and the LSAT.  Also, a foreign language, especially Chinese could be helpful.


Oh and also... Make sure it's your dream to be a lawyer and not a law student.  While I enjoyed law school, 3 years is fleeting, and then you have to be a lawyer ... Which is often really different than what ppl think it is.  Also, do research on the law school scam and the state of the legal economy so you know what you're getting into.  And know that document review jobs are what new lawyers today are fighting for in ost places, as sad as that may seem.



I pretty much agree with almost all of it since it's good realistic advice that matches up with the current state of affairs.

The part I must caution about is choosing a hard science major such as engineering, chemistry, biology bio-tech, etc. if one is not really interested in the field and willing to put in a lot of hard work in the associated classes. 

The classes are tough and very demanding.  They will rip apart your GPA and sink your brain as fast as Seal Team Six pulled Osama Bin Ladens brain out the back of his head and sank him in the ocean if you are not interested in the classes and consequently don't do the homework because you hate the classes/subjects and homework load involved.

If you are into hard sciences/engineering/bio-tech/etc., it is a great way to set a path to become a patent lawyer or a lawyer that deals with patent and science issues related litigation.  There is still a steady demand for lawyers of that type that are armed with specialized knowledge.

Also, don't do a drama major or some other similar --free/easy A's for everyone-- not very academic/very little reading involved major of the type that are meant for people who want to be actors/artists/musicians/famous entertainers/etc.  Law school admission committees at good schools will likely just laugh a bit when they read the application and then put it in the denied stack unless you have a top notch LSAT score, GPA and compelling soft factors that show you can and will be a book worm that is cool with spending a lot of time reading and writing.


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAC GPA Q
« on: January 08, 2012, 09:46:53 AM »
They probably will be factored in since they were college classes and LSAC requires that you submit transcripts from every college you have taken classes at, but I'm not sure with your situation since you were in high school at the time you took them and it's not clear from your post whether they were college courses or just satellite high school classes held on a college campus. 

If you were issued a transcript from the college for the classes you must submit it and the grades will be factored in.

The best way to get a definitive answer is to call LSAC and/or email them about it to see what they have to say.  LSAC staff is helpful with answering questions about the law school application and admission process. 

Don't be afraid to call them and tell them the details or email them with the details and questions, they don't bite.

 


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: College Sophomore Studying for LSAT
« on: January 08, 2012, 09:17:55 AM »
If you are going to self-study rather than take a prep class, get rid of the Princeton Review Cracking the LSAT book.  It is not good.  There are several other LSAT prep books available that are excellent for self-study.  The Powerscore books (the LSAT Bibles) are excellent.  The Manhattan LSAT books are also good.  The many others available from various publishers/companies, especially the ones you can find off-the-shelf at bookstores are terrible, including the Kaplan self-study LSAT books. 

A must-have book for self study is the LSAT SuperPrep book.  It is written and published by LSAC.  It contains good overviews of the three section types (though not nearly as comprehensive as the above mentioned books), three tests and detailed explanations for every question in each of the included tests.  Everything in it was written by LSAC people that write the LSAT test questions.   

If you take a full length prep course from a quality/reputable LSAT prep company you should be provided with pretty much all available previously administered LSAT questions plus other stuff in addition to live instruction and therefore would not need to purchase copies of the available official/authentic LSAT PrepTests.  If you decide to take a live full-length prep class, do some research ahead of time to see what is available in your area.  There are some excellent prep companies that offer classes but also some really crappy ones. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« on: January 04, 2012, 05:30:13 AM »
Certainly do not start working LSAT materials for a few years.  Your main academic priority should be earning and maintaining a high GPA.

For law school admissions your undergraduate major does not really matter unless it is something really easy and non-academic along the lines of arts and crafts, horticulture, pottery, etc., but your GPA does matter a lot.  Do not select your UG major and classes based on what you think law school admission committees might favor. They seek to put together classes of people from diverse backgrounds that have performed well in prior academic settings.

Pick a major that you are interested in.  You should explore the options to find the one that is the best fit for you.

Regarding specific undergraduate classes that may help you be better prepared for the LSAT several years from now when you take it, basic statistics classes and basic logic/philosophy (NOT symbolic logic!) classes would help.  Those classes teach the fundamentals of valid methods of logical and analytical reasoning and the many common flawed methods of reasoning that are the bread and butter of what many LSAT questions (especially in the LR sections) revolve around. 

LSAT questions are designed to test reasoning skills/abilities with fairly basic logical concepts as well as English reading comprehension/grammar/vocabulary skills. 


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Easily confused topics/words
« on: December 18, 2011, 12:43:21 PM »
oh my.

Julie, I know you could have come up with something better and that rhymes in this thread than another "oh my". I'm disappointed. 

PS:  Site owner Andrew Sinclair did something to the board that ate the avatars of many older user accounts.  You, IrrX and other LSD long time regulars need to re-upload your avatars.

oh my.



PS: Glad to see that the avatars are back.



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nothing wrong with knowing how get test-ready, whenever that happen.

True, but there is something wrong when an LSAT clueless person claims to be an expert prep service provider in attempts to get naive students to hand over credit card information in order to take their money.

IrrX cleaned out this spammer/scammer so the problem here is solved for now. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Easily confused topics/words
« on: December 14, 2011, 06:11:28 PM »
oh my.

Julie, I know you could have come up with something better and that rhymes in this thread than another "oh my". I'm disappointed. 

PS:  Site owner Andrew Sinclair did something to the board that ate the avatars of many older user accounts.  You, IrrX and other LSD long time regulars need to re-upload your avatars. 


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Easily confused topics/words
« on: December 13, 2011, 09:57:47 AM »
oh my.

Have to give him a little credit though, he deleted his foolish spam post in this thread.  Hopefully he'll change his username to something other than 'Win'


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