No hard feelings here. I understand the need to keep the information here untainted.
There's too much at stake.
I'm definitely not planning to take the Dec LSAT. I'm looking at next June at earliest.
I learned a hard lesson in the perils of under-preparation as an undergrad - I have a 2.6
GPA to prove it. If I do this, I'm going to do it right, and try to put at least 200 - 300
hours of prep time in.
Thanks for the heads up on the authenticity of prep materials. The Powerscore books
seem to get mentioned here a lot. Do they use real exam questions?
Since you've been teaching for many years, maybe I'll take you up on your offer to answer
questions. I'm most confident in my ability to do well on the Logic Games section, because
I've been doing software development for many years. So I essentially solve logic puzzles
for a living. I know the Logic Games on the LSAT are a very specific kind of logic puzzle,
but what I'm saying is that I feel like I probably have the aptitude to do well there with
What I'm not confident about is the Reading Comprehension section - I read like a 5th grader:-)
Well, maybe an 8th grader. In your experience, is it possible to make significant improvement
there? I know it depends on the individual, but can you give me an approximate range of what
you've seen as far as "number of questions improved by".
What about Logical Reasoning? I think I'll be alright there, but it seems like a cross between
reading comprehension and logic, so I'm not so confident. What do you typically see there as far
as number of questions improved by?
While we're at it, I might as well ask the same question about Logic Games. What kind of improvement
do you typically see there? I'm not looking for a money back guarantee - just a ballpark idea of what
kind of improvement people see. Maybe I should start a new thread in the admissions forum asking this
btw, anyone have any advice on how to search this forum. Has anyone had luck using google and providing
the site name? I'm going to try that right now and report back.
I'll try "lsat shill ptoomey site: lawschooladmissions.com"
Just busting chops Jeffort - hope to hear back from you.
Thanks for all the info.
Glad to hear back from you ptoomey and that our minor 'spat' is water under the bridge so to speak.
Planning ahead and prepping to take the June 2010 LSAT, especially given your other life responsibilities you mentioned sounds like a good idea. That would give you time to really dig in and get ready for it as well as balancing everything else you have on your hands.
Yes, the PowerScore books and classes use authentic licensed LSAT questions. As for self study books for prep, the PS books are by far the best. I've read and reviewed all of them and compared them to most of the other ones out there over the years.
Yes, improving your performance on the RC section is very much doable but it is typically the hardest section to improve ones score on, with one of the main factors behind that being that since it is the most boring and tedious section, students tend to avoid it and not dedicate time to practice and review it during study/prep time.
The logic game section is typically the easiest to improve upon for most people that hit it head on since it is extremely formulaic.
I suggest that you resist and delete from your mind the thoughts that invite you to spend time comparing yourself to the averages of previous test takers while prepping to try and predict your future improvement/score. Instead, use that mental power and time you have available to dig into the materials and work on doing things to improve your score. Statistically, an average represents a group of people, not an individual, and is not a good way to base your decision about how hard to study and work to improve your final score on the real test day.
Most people (with rare exceptions) totally suck and end up with a low score on the first full real timed LSAT PT they take. That score is just your baseline/starting point going in cold and is meant to be used to guide your focus in terms of weak areas and strong areas in order to guide your study focus.
Many many people have improved substantially from first timed practice test to final test day score due to dedicated proper study and instruction. I'm one of those people. The first full timed LSAT PT I took, going in cold without any prep and no clue about the substance of it and just showing up with some pencils to the first day of a prep course I scored a 151 or 152 (forgot which) and my final score on an administered LSAT that counted is 177.
Basically, you have to want it, put in the work, and fight for it using quality resources and spending a lot of time studying, reviewing and practicing everything unless you are one of the super rare 'naturals'.