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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: KU v. Washburn
« on: March 16, 2016, 04:41:28 PM »
I don't live in the Midwest, so I can't say for sure, but I assume that Kansas probably has a more established reputation as the flagship state university. Maybe that helps, especially in-state. Maybe that's worth the extra cost, I don't know.

But for example, where I live (CA) they would both be viewed the same. Not bad, not great, unlikely to open doors based on reputation alone. Does that mean that the degree is not portable? No, not at all. You just won't be able to rely on your pedigree to get the job. You'll have to show up with experience and be willing to battle against local law grads if you decide to move.

Honestly, the education you receive at either school (or any other ABA school) will be nearly identical. I'd probably be inclined to just pick the cheapest degree.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Akron vs. Roger Williams
« on: March 16, 2016, 04:31:43 PM »
Okay, well, that's still all over the place geographically. Those are all different markets with different employment opportunities/prospects.

All of the schools you're applying to are good, but again, they aren't pedigrees that will open doors outside of their region. As I stated above, I would pick 1) location and 2) cheapest school in that location.

If you are truly ok with living in any of those locations, then just go for the cheapest degree. 

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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: March 16, 2016, 02:32:43 PM »
My numbers might be a little off here, but:

Total delegates: 4700ish

Clinton so far: 1600

Sanders so far: 850

Clinton only needs approx. 750 more to win the nomination, while Sanders needs 750 just to break even with Clinton, then another 750 to win. So he needs to win roughly 2/3 of the outstanding delegates.

Is there any polling data anywhere that shows Sanders sweeping the rest of the primaries? Nope, there isn't.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Akron vs. Roger Williams
« on: March 16, 2016, 12:34:40 PM »
There's very little difference in cost, both schools probably have similar post grad job prospects within their respective regions, and neither will land you a job outside of its region (unless you have connections).

In short, it's simply a question of where you want to live after law school. The lack of stips with Akron might make it more attractive.

Question:
I don't mean this critically, but are you just sort of randomly applying to schools all over the place? If so, I would really, really think about where you want to live and practice long term. When you're talking about non-elite schools like these, you will almost certainly end up in that immediate region.

Pick an area where you want to live, then go to the cheapest school in that area.

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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: March 16, 2016, 08:33:54 AM »
Hillary won FL, OH and IL. With her pledged superdelegates, that gives her something like 1500 delegates to Bernie's 800. Notice that her speech last night was all about Trump and didn't even mention Sanders?

Pop pop pop.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: University of La Verne
« on: March 15, 2016, 01:57:03 PM »
I took Barbri at La Verne because it was the closest to my house and I didn't have to commute to LA. At that time they had provisional ABA accreditation. The students, faculty and facilities all seemed on par with any other ABA school I'd been to.

Later, I got a job in the Inland Empire and got to know a lot of ULV grads. Tons of the DAs/PDs/judges etc in that area are ULV grads and the school has been around long enough that it has a good reputation in the area.

I do think, however, that one of the Orange County schools will probably go bye bye in the not too distant future. OC is a small market, and they have four ABA schools. Whittier, in particular, has had problems. It wouldn't surprise me if they closed shop at some point.

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General Off-Topic Board / University of La Verne
« on: March 15, 2016, 12:20:25 PM »
It looks like another law school has been added to the mix. The University of La Verne received full ABA accreditation today. A buddy of mine is a graduate, and shared the press release.

That's great for ULV, but damn, the so cal market is getting crowded. That makes something like ten ABA schools in the greater LA area?

The one advantage they have is that they're the only school in the Inland Empire, and they have a huge alumni network there.

Anyway, congrats to ULV.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Stips vs. No Stips - Scholarships
« on: March 15, 2016, 09:55:43 AM »
Right, so the bottom 1/3 are being eliminated as per the conditions.

Here's the thing to keep in mind: as you get past the first year the class size will shrink and it will tougher to remain in the top 65%.

Let's say your entering class is 100. At the end of the year you need to be ranked 65 or above to keep the scholarship. Not too bad. But, after the first year the underperformers are going to be gone. So now you don't have that buffer of underperformers which made it easier for you remain in the top 65%. Now, you have to compete more directly with a smaller class of other better-performing students in order to retain the scholarship.

See if you can find out how many people lose the scholarship in the second year.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: KU v. Washburn
« on: March 15, 2016, 09:08:52 AM »
The other posers have already given good advice, I will just add this:

Outside of the Midwest, no one will draw any real distinction between Washburn and Kansas. As a graduate of either school, you won't be relying on your pedigree to get  job. You will need to get experience and make connections, and that will probably matter more than ranking.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Stips vs. No Stips - Scholarships
« on: March 15, 2016, 09:03:35 AM »
Top 65% is not too bad, and I'd be inclined to take that offer with the following caveat: research the school's grading curve, scholarship retention rate, and attrition. These will all come into play. Being in the top 2/3 could be more difficult than you anticipate, depending on several factors.

Also, what is the total cost of attendance at each school? One may be $5k cheaper, but is the cost of living higher, etc?

Think about location, too. If one school is in a place where you would like to live vs. a place where you would want to leave after graduation, then that, too, matters.

As far as the LSAT, go ahead and take it again, see what happens. If that gets you a better offer, then great.

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