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« on: February 05, 2014, 01:41:36 AM »
Low pass rates by DL applicants may have to do with:
1. Poor performance on the essay questions.
2. lack of preparation time due to employment and other responsibilites.
As far as the essay questions, why is that? Do most DL programs use the basic IRAC format, or are many DL students simply coming in to the program with less college level writing?
As far as employment, many ABA part time programs have employed/married, etc students, but still have decent pass rates. Do you think this is due to the more stringent admission criteria?
If DL students were allowed to take some of the easier bars like South Dakota with a consistent 90% pass rate - we would see those pass rates at least double or tiple.
I completely agree. If we required ALL law students to take the FYLSE, and allowed DL to take more than California's crazy bar, we'd see fewer ABA lawyers and more DL lawyers as a result.
« on: February 03, 2014, 12:19:13 AM »
Citylaw's post is comprehensive and excellent, so all I'll add is that with those options you can't go wrong. All three are excellent schools with huge reputations. That said, I've travelled quite a bit and I must say that Harvard has a certain, immediately recognizable prestige that is special. You can walk into a meeting in Cape Town, Rio, or Beijing and people will go "Damn, Harvard!"
Good luck and remember, even at elite schools your professors are just people and this is just their job. They don't know everything, and get a lot of stuff wrong! I had to occasionally remind myself of that during law school.
« on: February 01, 2014, 12:15:18 AM »
It's becoming obvious what you are Maintain.
Ridiculously handsome and a snazzy dresser? Guilty, your honor!
« on: January 31, 2014, 09:40:27 PM »
Ah, the ad hominem, a logical fallacy. That's what people do when they can't support their argument.
« on: January 31, 2014, 09:29:02 PM »
Still skirting around answering the questions, still no evidence.
« on: January 31, 2014, 03:43:49 PM »
I understand your point, but you still haven't provided anything to back it up. There is nothing in that article that supports your claim. Yes, students with crappy numbers will not receive scholarships and will have to pay full tuition while students with great numbers won't. Shocking!
I'll ask again, although I know you won't answer:
Do you have ANY evidence that law schools have scrapped diversity scholarships, or that diversity is not considered when awarding merit scholarships? If not, then your argument is baseless and should be disregarded.
« on: January 31, 2014, 03:42:44 AM »
Here's the evidence.
Take a look at LSN. An African American applicant, for example, with a 3.0-3.5/160-165 is likely to get a FULL scholarship to a prestigious Tier 1 school. I'll ask again, do you think the students reporting on LSN are lying?
Whether it's called a minority scholarship, a diversity scholarship or a merit scholarship is irrelevant. The money is there for students who qualify, and URM applicants can qualify with even moderate numbers. If you're talking about applicants whose numbers are too low to qualify for scholarships being "racially exploited", you're wrong. Law school attendance is voluntary and competitive, and no one is guaranteed a scholarship.
« on: January 30, 2014, 09:32:06 PM »
You need to contact your state bar to get the best answer. They may require certain documentation from doctors or other evidence that the issue is no longer a problem, and will not interfere with your ability to provide competent legal services.
Again, you should get that info straight from the state bar as they are the best source.
I asked because I'll be required to do 225 quarter credits to earn my first bachelor's degree (with three majors).
Is there any reason why you need three majors? For the purposes of law school admission you'd be better off with one major and a high GPA than three majors and a lower GPA.
« on: January 30, 2014, 02:25:35 AM »
Which schools, specifically? There are varying levels of difficulty.
Take a look at the admission grids on LSAC. Find your GPA/LSAT range, and it will show you how many applied and how many were accepted with your approximate numbers. This will give you a good idea as to your chances at a particular school.
« on: January 29, 2014, 12:28:26 PM »
I don't think poor result have anything to do with the applicable law on the individual bar exam, but it has a lot to do with the stress of adjusting to a new environment. When I was taking the California Bar I was freaking out, but I went to law school in San Francisco and had my friends, girlfriend, apartment, etc in San Francisco and it was somewhat comforting to have a support structure during that time.
Had I moved across the Country to New York and not known a soul, rushed into some random apartment, and knew nothing the stress of all those changes would have been very difficult to deal with and the results may have come out very differently. This is something I don't think many law students take into consideration when studying for a bar or choosing a law school.
Yes, I agree that it's definitely a factor but to what degree? The pass rates for many out of state schools in CA is really low, like 25-50% even for first tier schools. A lot of those students are actually from CA and are returning home after law school, so they do have a support network. But as you say, others don't.
I just wonder if CA law schools prepare students for the difficulty level they will face on the CA bar exam, whereas other states prepare students for their own level of difficulty? It would interesting to see the rates at which CA students pass/fail other states' bar exams. I've never taken another state's bar, but I know people who have. With a few exceptions (NY and TX), most of the people I've to felt that CA's bar was more difficult, and in some cases significantly so.
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