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Law School Applications / Southwestern gets new Dean
« on: March 01, 2005, 06:16:57 PM »
For anyone looking at Southwestern.  This guy took IU from 65 to 35 at its highest point. He has a proven ability to pull in some large donations.

http://www.swlaw.edu/media/newsreleases.html#garth

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Loyola Law School (LA)
« on: December 07, 2004, 05:44:32 PM »
SW has a completely enclosed parking structure with key card access.  There is no reason a security guard would have to walk someone to his or her car.  To the poster who made this statement, I am afraid you are poorly informed.  I have not heard of one serious crime since I have been there (3 years).  I walk to public transportation every night and sometimes very early in the morning.  I have never felt afraid or insecure.  My personal opinion; Loyola is in a far worse area then Southwestern.  However, neither area is any worse than say USC.

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Where should I go next fall? / Potential Southwestern Students
« on: November 23, 2004, 01:15:50 PM »
Here are some interesting links for anyone considering Southwestern. The first one is to the dedication gala for the new courtroom, hosted by Jusitce Kennedy. http://www.swlaw.edu/campus/dixoncourtroom.html The second link is to the online newspaper SW puts out each month.  Enjoy. 

http://www.swlaw.edu/campus/galagallery.htm

http://www.swlaw.edu/reporter/novdec04.htm

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Southwestern? Is it really that bad?
« on: November 22, 2004, 08:07:59 PM »
Average LSAT of last years class was 157.  Average GPA 3.3.  Based on these statistics and the statistics of all students applying to law school from the LACAS website; 82% of all students applying last year were below Southwestern's mean.

If SW was attached to an undergraduate university and had greater name recognition they would be in the top 100.

According to www.cal.bar.gov Southwestern has the 3rd highest number of active alumni in California (9,000).  Not a bad place to graduate from if you need to network.

Southwestern, can't legitimately be considered a back up for most law students (see stats already noted).  Moreover, they only accepted 24.7% of the people who applied last year.   Pepperdine: 27.6%; USF: 25.6%; Santa Clara: 25%; Loyola: 19.7%.
 

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Law School Applications / Re: What's the deal with Southwestern?
« on: November 16, 2004, 01:14:55 PM »
Polar- You couldn't be further from the truth.

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Law School Applications / Re: What's the deal with Southwestern?
« on: November 15, 2004, 08:16:29 PM »
I only posted the numbers to dispell the myth that Southwestern weeds out students.  It isnt true at least not anymore.  Southwestern has made drastic improvements in student body and facilities over the last four years they may be the next Cali. school to break into the top 100. 

The only thing keeping them back is the lack of a national reputation and no undergraduate university. 

Look at UNLV only around a few years but it has a great rep. based on what....name recognition.  Thats all the peer assessment category is.

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Law School Applications / Re: SCALE program at Southwestern
« on: November 15, 2004, 08:11:27 PM »
Southwestern's employment stats, from USNEWS, better than SCU and Pepperdine, lagging Loyola handily.

Total graduates: 212
Graduates known to be employed at graduation: 83.5%
Graduates known to be employed nine months after graduation (including 25 percent of those with unknown status): 96.1% Graduates employed at graduation

Starting Salaries (2002 Graduates Employed Full-time)
Private sector (25th-75th percentile): $57,000 - $100,500
Median in the private sector: $82,500
Percent in the private sector who reported salary information: 63%
Median in public service: $40,200

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Law School Applications / Re: What's the deal with Southwestern?
« on: November 15, 2004, 08:07:47 PM »
Southwestern's connections in the entertainment industry are very deep.

Here is a link to just some of their alumni, it is impressive.

http://www.swlaw.edu/entertainment/alumni.html

Undoubtedly, any school affiliate will pump up their respective institution, however, in my opinion their is likley a great deal of truth to what he told you.

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Law School Applications / Re: What's the deal with Southwestern?
« on: November 15, 2004, 08:02:33 PM »
Golden Gate's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 35.1% last year.
Cal Western's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 35.4% last year.
University of San Francisco's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 20.6% last year.
Southwestern's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 19.3% last year.
Pepperdine's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 18.2% last year.
Santa Clara's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 14.6% last year.
Loyola's attrition rate for 1st & 2nd year students was 11.2% last year.

Southwestern's attrition rate is in line with other comparable schools i.e. Pepperdine and USF, and not far off from SCU and Loyola.

All stats taken from the most recent USNEWS and world report graduate school ranking guide, spend 5.99 and get all the facts.

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Law School Applications / Re: Critique Needed
« on: October 27, 2004, 02:32:48 PM »
I don't know about schools outside of California.  However, I know that for Cal. schools like Southwestern and Loyola you really need a 155+ to be competitive.  Southwestern and Loyola recieved almost 10,000 apps combined last year.  Southwestern made a point not to give outright offers to anyone under 153, they waitlisted many in the low 150's only a few exceptions were eventually admitted.  There are of course exceptions to the rule.  However, I know that apps are again on the rise and you can expect the same level of scrutiny.  I believe Southwesterns accpetance stat was like 21% last year which is a fifteen year low.

You may have a better shot at, Whittier, Chapman and Cal Western. 

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