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Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: The LGBTQ Thread
« on: September 24, 2007, 05:29:25 PM »
I finally got my list of shools to 10!  Let me know what you think from the LGBT perspective, and whether it's a good range for my 171, 3.77.

Chicago (Waiver)
Duke (Waiver)
Georgetown (Waiver)
William & Mary (Waiver)

What about putting Stanford on the list?  SLS is a wonderful place to be gay. :)

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: The LGBTQ Thread
« on: August 16, 2007, 11:59:19 PM »
Hey guys,

I'm new to the site and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm a senior at a UC campus in Southern Cal and a music major (How gay, right?? LOL).  Graduation's next June, but I've decided to work for 1 year--perhaps more  :)--before going to law school. I plan to take the LSAT next September and mail my apps later that fall.

I hope this thread remains active b/c I'll have many questions as time goes by.  NYU Law is my dream school, but unfortunately I can't just bumrush the joint--they have accept me first!  ;D LOL

It would be cool to know where all LGBT 1L's are matriculating this month.

Can I get a headcount?


Welcome, and good luck to you!  Do you know what you're planning to do with your year off?

I will also be a 1L this fall.  I came out in my statement of purpose, but didn't mention it in my regular ps.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Stanford Law '10
« on: July 25, 2007, 06:33:21 PM »
It's nice to see some posts here in the SLS '10 thread!  I also don't understand why there are so few LSD posters headed to SLS this fall-- we have a pretty good showing on facebook.  Max Fischer-- congratulations on your decision!  Will you be living on campus?

Law School Admissions / Re: Stanford wait list thread
« on: June 29, 2007, 09:08:05 PM »
Good luck, everyone!

Where the Gays/Allies are going:

The American University Gay Eagles

The Cornell University Gay Big Red

The Georgetown Gay Hoyas

The George Washington University Gay Colonials:

The University of Michigan Gay Wolverines
Chasing Daylight
Norn/The Boy with the Sun in His Eyes
The University of Pennsylvania Gay Quakers

The Catholic University Gay Cardinals


Good call on the update.  thanks!

Put me down for Stanford. =)

Don't study the day before the test-- relax!  Make sure to have a good breakfast and lunch right before the test, and don't drink too much water.

Good luck, LSAT takers!

Hi all,

I'm new to the thread (to the whole forum, really) and would love to join in. However, I'm applying for the Fall 2008 cycle, and it feels kind of dumb to jump in on the 07 cycle discussion just when everyone's getting decisions and I haven't even applied yet. I think we're at the time of year when the focus will soon turn to the upcoming admissions season, so...if I start a Fall 2008 LGBT thread, will there be anyone else there? Anyone? Bueller?

My vote is that you just jump into this one and talkabout whatever the heck you want to ;) --- maybe mike can change the name of the thread in a few months or somethin????

Welcome, Saraphi!  I'm glad to see someone else interested in the Bay Area here in this thread.  Both Boalt and Hastings are great schools, and the LGBT environment is very welcoming and fun.  Both schools care a lot about diversity and experience, so you should definitely emphasize your background, talents, work experience, etc, should you apply.

BTW, good suggestion, Bouzie.  I'll go ahead and change the name of the thread to make it more general. :)

What happened to Mike & the Michigan/Penn crew?  I didn't mean for this to become a DC thread.  Come back everybody!

Congrats on everyone's law school decisions!  I just figured out my housing situation for next year (on-campus studio), so I'm relieved that I won't have to be apt hunting. Good luck to everyone still searching for places!

I'm not a DC'er, but if anyone is on facebook or in the Bay Area, feel free to add me or PM me. :)

So! What can anyone tell me about LGBT life at Harvard? I am pretty sure Mike had visited there, so if you are around, I'd really appreciate your comments.

Congrats on Harvard, Ersatz!  Absy (and, to some extent, lyquidmyrrrh) are probably more qualified to talk about the LGBT atmosphere at Harvard, but I'll throw in my two cents.  Harvard seems to be a pretty great place to be gay.  I brought my bf to the admit weekend, and didn't feel awkward at all.  One of the faculty-guided discussions addressed the constitutionality of gay marriage and domestic partnership benefits, and the whole crowd seemed really progressive and pro-gay rights.  The Lambda Law group seems to have a pretty strong presence on campus, and they have a pretty large membership.  And, of course, Boston/Cambridge is a pretty gay-friendly city.  It's not quite as gay at the SF Bay Area, but close.

Good luck on your decision!

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Should I try for the top 3?
« on: May 13, 2007, 10:50:35 AM »
To be fair to Stanford, their yield itself is probably somewhat deceptive. Yale and Stanford accept a lot of the same people, and Yale's ridiculous yield must do nasty things to Stanford as a result of Stanford's small class size. While Harvard also factors into the equation (and also loses its fair share of cross-admits to Yale), its larger size works to make that less of a harm to their own yield.

That said, I still think Harvard probably beats out Stanford on cross admits, and probably somewhat clearly too. While the 20% yield difference is likely deceptive, it's still a 20% yield difference.

I agree with Inspector Javert on this.  If you look at the hard numbers, approximately 270 people turn down Harvard every year and 230 people turn down Stanford.  Considering that HYS are competing for pretty much the same students, the loss of Yale cross-admits (anywhere from 100-150 of those 200+ students) does a lot more to hurt Stanford's yield than it does to hurt Harvard's yield.  The only real competition to HYS are the big scholarships at CCN and maybe the Darrow--and I don't think that many people take those over HYS.

Right, which leads to Stanford having fewer Black students and so on.  What's interesting is that I don't think Yale practices any of this with regards to openly gay students, especially those with any background in activism.  I suspect more than any discernable subcategory of applicants, this is where Harvard would trounce Yale in crossadmits.  Yet Yale will go after students and play hardball to try to win them away, thinking that they can overcome any perceived advantage that Harvard has, including sheer size.  I've seen it work (and fail).  Stanford just seems a little fatalistic on this point.  Their loss.

Purely anecdotal, but I got much more LGBT-related recruiting from Yale than Harvard.  Yale sent me all their Outlaw information, put on a big gay party during admit weekend, invited LGBT'ers to the minority admits day, and even had one of my bf's friends (now a Yale 2L) try to convince me to attend.  Harvard, on the other hand, never sent me any LGBT-related correspondence and didn't have very much diversity-specific programming during its ASW (sorry absy!).

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